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| Quote ="Dave T"I don't know about turning the corner, but I feel we are certainly getting there.
Our defence, despite some soft tries the other day is much better. I am not as worried when the opposition has the ball in our 20m zone.
My concern over Easter was our lack of ability with the ball, however irrespective of who we played on Friday night, our running angles, and pass selection was second to none.
The team looked well balanced too, for the first time in ages. Our forwards have always been a strength, but now that left hand side are looking like a threat, with King, Johnson and Louis, as well as Riley linking in. Bridge is always dangerous, and Hicks is a proven finisher, especially with Briers steering them two around.
This was a big step up, but we still have plenty of improvement in us IMO.'"
The most noticable thing for me, was our use of dummy runners.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Do you know what? If saintc adopted that approach I don't think he'd get half as much stick as he does.
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TBH thats a load of rubbish.
My views arent taken well because they are true and from a Saints fan so many dont like it. Many of the views that I express are also voiced by some Wire fans and shock horror they get no stick at all.
This thread is about turning the corner or not and I have contributed to the topic by saying I dont think that you have. That Bradford side is the worst in over 13 years so strolling past them while still managing to let over 20 in is not a sign of turning the corner.
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| Quote ="saintc"This thread is about turning the corner or not and I have contributed to the topic by saying I don't think that you have. That Bradford side is the worst in over 13 years so strolling past them while still managing to let over 20 in is not a sign of turning the corner.'"
Couldn't agree more ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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| I don't think your team have turned the corner just yet, but as much as people say Bradford were very poor, surely some of your tactics made them look ordinary?
If you can gain some confidence from that win and go and turn Huddersfield over, then your season I'd say be up and running.
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"I don't think your team have turned the corner just yet, but as much as people say Bradford were very poor, surely some of your tactics made them look ordinary?
If you can gain some confidence from that win and go and turn Huddersfield over, then your season I'd say be up and running.'"
I agree, if we play the way we played on friday, good defense and loads of options in attack, then i dont see why we shouldnt beat hudds
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| Quote ="saintc"TBH thats a load of rubbish.
My views arent taken well because they are true and from a Saints fan so many dont like it. Many of the views that I express are also voiced by some Wire fans and shock horror they get no stick at all.
This thread is about turning the corner or not and I have contributed to the topic by saying I dont think that you have. That Bradford side is the worst in over 13 years so strolling past them while still managing to let over 20 in is not a sign of turning the corner.'"
but thats in your opinion!
you just sniff round for a thread to stick your nose in and post a comment.
you got something agaist the wire m8 thats what it is.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"but thats in your opinion!
you just sniff round for a thread to stick your nose in and post a comment.
you got something agaist the wire m8 thats what it is.'"
Well he is a Saints fan after all......
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| Quote ="Dave T"I don't know about turning the corner, but I feel we are certainly getting there.
Our defence, despite some soft tries the other day is much better. I am not as worried when the opposition has the ball in our 20m zone.
My concern over Easter was our lack of ability with the ball, however irrespective of who we played on Friday night, our running angles, and pass selection was second to none.
The team looked well balanced too, for the first time in ages. Our forwards have always been a strength, but now that left hand side are looking like a threat, with King, Johnson and Louis, as well as Riley linking in. Bridge is always dangerous, and Hicks is a proven finisher, especially with Briers steering them two around.
This was a big step up, but we still have plenty of improvement in us IMO.'"
I totally agree with you.
That's been my concern, I can see the defensive improvement week on week, but felt we'd gone into our shell offensively. I know we've not had Briers, but I felt the options the ball carrier had against Castleford weren't good enough. (I've excused Friday at Salford, conditions wise.)
On Friday we looked a threat all over the field. Left side, right side, around the ruck. We carried a threat from our own line, in their 20m, the lot. Morley set the tone with a break in the opening minutes right through the middle. Sure it was just one performance, but if you look closely at it, there was things to appreciate that would have caused any side problems, and sure, areas that we can further improve on.
What we're getting towards now though, for the first time in donkeys, is that you have to earn your place in our 17, regardless of who you are. Penny played well - Out. Blythe was good v Cas - Out. Mitchell - Out. Grix has been consistant - Out. Vinnie only made the bench Friday, he wasn't 'restored' as such, Briers has had the same. I think it's good to see.
Y'know ? We've got options now. Outside of that 17 on Friday, Mathers, Penny, Grix, Mitchell, Blythe, Rauhihi.
The amount of smiles on Warrington players faces on Friday, and the way they seemed to share each others success was greater than I've seen in an awful long time. The mood looks to be improving, the confidence will not lift, the style of the team is improving, defensively we are making strides, big strides. King now looks the part at centre (Oh yeah, where's the 'Kins isn't a centre, he'sa winger threads this week ?). Lots to be positive about, shame folk would rather cling onto a negative at times, c'mon, we don't have too many 'good days', bloody enjoy them.
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| Quote ="saintc"TBH thats a load of rubbish.
My views arent taken well because they are true and from a Saints fan so many dont like it. Many of the views that I express are also voiced by some Wire fans and shock horror they get no stick at all.
This thread is about turning the corner or not and I have contributed to the topic by saying I dont think that you have. That Bradford side is the worst in over 13 years so strolling past them while still managing to let over 20 in is not a sign of turning the corner.'" the thread is called your thoughts,not yours cos you dont follow the wire,i should of called the thread "everybodies thoughts execept saintc,cos i dont want your thoughts about warrington wolves,everyone elses thoughts i will take on board thanks, i bid you goodday,,,
oh saintc would you go to a party if you was nt invited????? ![Razz icon_razz.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_razz.gif)
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| Quote ="Ian [77"What basis do you have for believing that? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just interested to know why you believe that to be the case.'"
Because we're near the bottom of the league. If someone makes up a rumour - like Gleeson leaving for financial reasons - people are more likely to believe it.
In the 2002 season we had these rumours:
Briers hadn't been paid for 4 weeks, so we wouldn't get a transfer fee when he signed for Widnes because we had broke his contract.
Craig Weston walked out on the club because we were behind on his wages.
The stadium was in serious jeopardy because we didn't have the finances.
What actually happened was....
We paid £60000 transfer fee for Ben Westwood
We paid £30000 transfer fee for Nat Wood
We tried to sign Neil Turley and were going to pay a fee for him, but he strung us along so pulled out of the deal.
We signed Graham Appo from Lezignan
We signing Danny Halliwell and Richie Mathers on loan
The stadium went ahead
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"but thats in your opinion!.'"
yup
Quote ="bombheadwire"you just sniff round for a thread to stick your nose in and post a comment..'"
What? On a message board. Thats just MADNESS....I feel such a fool now.
Quote ="bombheadwire"you got something agaist the wire m8 thats what it is.'"
Nope. I quite like you. If Saints werent to win a particular trophy Id want Wire to win it.
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| Quote ="the ditch"the thread is called your thoughts,'"
And Ive gave you my thoughts.
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| Nope. I quite like you. If Saints werent to win a particular trophy Id want Wire to win it.'"
For some reason i really don't believe that...
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| I don't believe we have turned any corner. What I do hope, is that this the beginning of a programme of improvement that will take us to a level of consistency not seen for 20+ years.
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| Quote ="MikeyWire"
For some reason i really don't believe that...'"
Im not bothered. Its the truth. Just because you lot have a terminal bitterness towards us doesnt mean its the other way around. I like you style of rugby, its entertaining and expansive, plenty of offloads so I like to see that.
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| Quote ="Dave T"The team looked well balanced too, for the first time in ages. '"
You're not kidding. When Youane arrived at the ground, I'd just seen the team on the big screen and told him who was playing and said the team looked the best we'd had for ages. Then when we started to play, it was obvious we were set up to attack - Clarke's passing from the floor to props steaming on to the ball, Briers and Monaghan linking up, Briers kicking well for territory. The full back and the three quarters were also much more lively.
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| Quote ="saintc"And Ive gave you my thoughts.'"
ill give you mine!
stay on your own forum coz all you do is wait for something negative to happen at the wire then post a sly comment or get your little dig in.
do one!
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"ill give you mine!
stay on your own forum coz all you do is wait for something negative to happen at the wire then post a sly comment or get your little dig in.
do one!'"
there's kinda something wrong with that isnt there. I'll let you spot it.
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| Quote ="saintc"there's kinda something wrong with that isnt there. I'll let you spot it.'"
i dont realy care what you thinks wrong with it.
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| Quote ="saintc"TBH thats a load of rubbish.
My views arent taken well because they are true and from a Saints fan so many dont like it. Many of the views that I express are also voiced by some Wire fans and shock horror they get no stick at all.
This thread is about turning the corner or not and I have contributed to the topic by saying I dont think that you have. That Bradford side is the worst in over 13 years so strolling past them while still managing to let over 20 in is not a sign of turning the corner.'"
Not really. You chucked in the 'traffic cones' and 'grand declarations' type of crap you often do to get a bigger reaction.
If you have posted your last sentence I doubt people would have reacted quite so much.
As for people not liking your views because they're true - you're always on here telling us how rubbish we are, I very much doubt many will disagree with you on that one!
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| saintc the fact you have all the last scores from wire v saints games at the bottom of your post tells me you got something against the wire.
also i know your commenting on a thead that isnt negative coz wire won but i just mean your comments in general on the wire forums are toss and negative like your trying to put us down but the truth is m8 your a joke.
why the vendetta m8? whats up? someone from warrington nick your bird or somethin.
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Not really. You chucked in the 'traffic cones' and 'grand declarations' type of crap you often do to get a bigger reaction.
If you have posted your last sentence I doubt people would have reacted quite so much.
As for people not liking your views because they're true - you're always on here telling us how rubbish we are, I very much doubt many will disagree with you on that one!'"
To be fair that comment was to make the point about Bradford being poor. They were. It wasnt an irrelevant point, it was highly relevant since Bradford being THAT poor means you cant read too much into whether you have turned the corner or not. If some people on here (not saying you) are too thick to see that as a reasonable point and get the hump because its from a Saints fan then thats their problem.
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"
also i know your commenting on a thead that isnt negative coz wire won but i just mean your comments in general on the wire forums are toss and negative
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No they aint. They are the truth. Sometimes they are positive and other times they arent. The problem lies with some of the brain donors on here that agree with certain points if they are made by Wire fans but then take the hump if the same point is delivered by a Saints fan.
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| Quote ="saintc"To be fair that comment was to make the point about Bradford being poor. They were. It wasnt an irrelevant point, it was highly relevant since Bradford being THAT poor means you cant read too much into whether you have turned the corner or not. If some people on here (not saying you) are too thick to see that as a reasonable point and get the hump because its from a Saints fan then thats their problem.'"
but why cant you say wire were good?
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| Quote ="bombheadwire"but why cant you say wire were good?'"
I havent said that there not. The thread is asking if you have turned the corner and Ive answered honestly and given the same answer as many Wire fans. You simply cant tell off that match because Bradford were woefull.
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