I fear for young Toby on Saturday. He did however have a much improved game on Saturday less launching the ball into the South stand looking for Rhys on the 2nd tackle. He has rectified his knock on issues that he seemed to have. TS seems to be happy to play him at Right Centre with Rhys Evans as his wingman.

I think we will start off with the same 13 that took to the field on Saturday with Westwood, Bailey, Dwyer and G King on the bench. We must remember that TS has form in throwing curveballs.

Fonua Vs King gives me palpitations

From looking at the highlights, King was your Right Centre? He will be against Yeaman, not Fonua. Although Talanoa, Minichiello and Pritchard will all be attacking his channel

I would not pick Toby King. He's obviously a talent but from what I've seen he's not ready yet. I would pick Penny. Hull are too big and strong at the moment for Toby. I think TS will pick Toby and if he does I really hope I've got it wrong.

Thinking more and more about it and trying to see a reason not to pick Penny, and I can't find one. He's mad keen, and will run all day, making a decent amount of meters in the process, and has very few handling errors, which negates the Russell argument. Then there's the obvious, he can finish, which pits him above Evans as a winger.

But on top of that, if we need something to change the momentum, he's great in the air and will chase a ball like a puppy, and if fancy his chances on the left wing of our jumping Michaels. Russell couldn't do that, nor would he win many foot races.

I can't see a reason not to pick him! It's not like Russell is a steady winger who doesn't make mistakes!

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If Westerman is doubtful. Ratchford to take his place. Russell to full back & Penny on the wing.

Nah, they'll start king at 13 or something in that case.

I'm not saying I'd do that, but less changes

I'm sure Tony Smith will be aware of all the pitfalls & have something up his sleeve to fool the opposition. We went up against Leeds at Wembley as underdogs & looking like a bunch of demics till kick off then the Wire showed them how to play.

I haven't been this concerned about our backline since the magic weekend.

George King cited for a grade a dangerous throw. How close is Cox to being available? We may need him and Westwood may have to do big minutes at loose forward if Westerman is injured. Confident that Westwood could do big minutes he has been spelled well this season.

I havent been this concerned about our back line since we had Rhys Williams in it........

I have zero belief we can win this Final as it stands....its been an unbalanced squad for weeks...and we aren't troubled by major injuries but the team never "feels" right.....

Russel for me is Fullback or nothing I'd prefer Ratchford in the centres and I'd just like two wingers playing on the wing........ if we go into the final with Atkins being the only player playing in the correct position in the backline it will be a right mess for us.......

I Fancy Minichello will waltz the Lance Todd trophy.......

but hey ho its Wembley and the Pies Saint's and Widnes wont be there......

You say untroubled by major injuries, but how many games have Mitch Dodds, James Laithwaite, Ben Harrison, Ben Evans and Gary Wheeler (who played a good centre on the rare occasion he could walk) played between them this season? We should be coping better with the squad we have, especially as its forwards we have out and backs we have problems with, but it's not like we are untouched by the current plague of long-term injuries this season.

I think I agree with Russell at full-back, especially as one of his main weaknesses - catching - is still a weakness on the wing! He seemed to do a pretty good job there in our 7-game winning run at the start of the season too, while Ratchford has everything you want in a centre, assuming he is happy to play there. That's the main problem I think, our players want to play in a different position to where we think they're suited! Evans doesn't look comfortable on the wing anyway, and it sounds like King is out of his depth.

Do we know anything for certain about Penny being injured in that reserves game? 'Bad form' or not, it'll be an improvement on what we have now.