He was a massive disappointment.Missed plenty of games and wasn't at all outstanding in most of the ones he played in.Has only played about 24 games in 2 years and what pace he had at Wigan is gone, not that he was a speed merchant anyway.He'll be solid for Wire but nothing more.He won't improve the team.

I think we're all forgetting that the club has a reserve team to run thats capable of also coming in and doing the odd job at SL level next season. Our current academy arn't up to that so the signings like Kibula, Ashton and Brand are going to be low budget on the cap and there for squad depth next season at least.

Widdop and Gelling (Not impressed with his signiture in the slightest) are our only real first team signings so far. I'd expect a couple more names before the GB Tour.

What’s the obsession with Ex Wigan players ?

Russell
Charnley
Hughes
Kibula
Gelling
Crosby

I expected you to announce Joel Tomkins in the next week or so.

Dave Myers
Ian Potter
Andy Gregory
Billy McGinty
Les Davidson
Phil Blake

What was Wigan's obsession with Wire players?

Seriously not trying to be funny but i think the difference in those comparisons is that only possibly Charnley has improved your side. Not that it means anything really though. Players move from club to club until they find on that suits them and the club. Not many 1 club men these days.

cos saints don't release any half decent players ever.

see matty smith

Still disappointing that according to the league express we are still looking for a prop and seem to be nowhere nearer to signing anyone. Looks like a case of us just signing whoevers able like we've done in the past. Really thought we would have been nearly done with a Prop by now, it's not like the lack of forward power situation only popped up a few weeks ago it's been an issue all year.

Annoyingly, it wouldn't surprise me if we (like has been stated before) were waiting for the nrl season to finish and for clubs to be looking at next year and where players will get squeezed out for salary cap reasons, rather than hunting for specifics.

A sad state of affairs for our academy and scouting setup that we have to sign Gelling.

When you look at Saints and Wigan's backline and the players that come through their academy it really does hit home how poor we are in that regard.

Makinson
Percival
Grace
Burgess
Marshall
Davies
Manfredi
Gildart

In terms of props, Salfords starting props this year have been Gil Dudson & Lee Mossop - one had the silliest moustache in RL history and the other was written off as injury plagued and finished.

Yet neither have done too bad.

Maybe they are getting better coaching, better conditioning, are utilised better or are better motivated because people like me have a laugh at them.

He's played 18 games and scored 11 tries since he joined us at the start of this year! As I've said before on here he's looked ordinary at times but when he wants to be he's sublime! He's the type of player that I love to watch who can turn a game with a flash of brilliance. It's something that Warrington have been sadly lacking particularly with their centres and I think its a really good signing for them!

Fingers crossed matey, i've said before i'm not a huge fan but i'll wait to see what he can do for us before i make a final Judgement