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I have not seen much of Saints on TV this year but I was shocked at their body language. if there was a dropped ball they didn't even attempt to drop on it.The Saints players looked more concerned with questioning the ref whilst play is still ongoing rather than trying to get back in defence (check Eastmond in the build up for Tomkins Try). Clearly they have lost a bit of mental toughness and to be fair to them they do have a lot of players out. If I were them I would bring Eastmond on as Replacement hooker and keep Roby on the pitch as a loose forward against us. Roby must be knackered playing 80 mins of most games.

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Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "I have not seen much of Saints on TV this year but I was shocked at their body language. if there was a dropped ball they didn't even attempt to drop on it.The Saints players looked more concerned with questioning the ref whilst play is still ongoing rather than trying to get back in defence (check Eastmond in the build up for Tomkins Try). Clearly they have lost a bit of mental toughness and to be fair to them they do have a lot of players out. If I were them I would bring Eastmond on as Replacement hooker and keep Roby on the pitch as a loose forward against us. Roby must be knackered playing 80 mins of most games.'"

Eastmond is totally disinterested and just waiting to go to RU. Roby and Graham were both poor last night and I suspect that they were both carrying injuries. Wigan's excellent defence never gave Saints any good position and the Saints halfback were anonymous for the first 60 minutes.

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Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "I have not seen much of Saints on TV this year but I was shocked at their body language. '"

That's the same body language we had at the outset of the season. I think I want our young guys back again because while we were having our injury crisis we looked like a team who cared. Our oldies return (bar in the halves - and that showed last night) and we put our feet up.

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Quote: Nikaed "I don't hate Wigan as a club. I think they've done alot in terms of putting rugby league on the map and we've always done well against them. Always brought through great young players and is a rugby league hotbed. It's their new generation of fans that are annoying, the older ones know their rugby league and you can have a decent debate. The current chav/ultra wave are a bit deluded and thick and seem more intent on getting their dick wet through trolling or getting their bellies rubbed on cherry and white, rather than chatting about rugby league.'"


I am a Wigan fan and I totally agree with this. Many of times I've cringed at the comments and attitude of my fellow Wigan supports.
Fickle, ignorant and often can't see past the cherry and white tinted specs.

As a RL over 30 I've seen many ups and downs in our great sport, and have seen how important Wigan RL have been. Without us English RL wouldn't be the same.

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Quote: FireWire "Keep an eye out for Danny Dire, apparently he's going to be there filming the Wigan Ultras for a new show on Bravo.'"

think you'll find it was Ross Kemp for Sky (although he could see it was about to kick off so he got out of there fast)!

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Quote: Nikaed "I don't hate Wigan as a club. I think they've done alot in terms of putting rugby league on the map and we've always done well against them. Always brought through great young players and is a rugby league hotbed. It's their new generation of fans that are annoying, the older ones know their rugby league and you can have a decent debate. The current chav/ultra wave are a bit deluded and thick and seem more intent on getting their dick wet through trolling or getting their bellies rubbed on cherry and white, rather than chatting about rugby league.'"

Good post. I mean, what was that crappy song they were singing at full time. Absolutle crap.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Good post. I mean, what was that crappy song they were singing at full time. Absolutle crap.'"


'We Are The Champions'.

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Where were all the Saints fans last night? Saw the tries on SSN and there seemed to be loads of empty seats, except in the away end.

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saint mully wrote: It was disappointing to see the numbers leaving after the Lee Smith try when I was coming back in from the toilets, I could hardly get back in scully = god wrote: We have the worst fans in the league. FACT. What we need is the passion Wigan fans have.:3064.gif



Quote: FireWire "Where were all the Saints fans last night? Saw the tries on SSN and there seemed to be loads of empty seats, except in the away end.'"


Pretty much the same I suspect when you guys played them earlier. Only 5 minutes down the road and they can't sell out, embarrassing for such a big club.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "Pretty much the same I suspect when you guys played them earlier. Only 5 minutes down the road and they can't sell out, embarrassing for such a big club.'"

Not really. KR had quite a good number of 'walk up' fans. They'll all return next year. Wigan fans have a short memory for things like this. The crowd for their play-off game at Widnes a couple of years ago wasn't much above 6000.

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saint mully wrote: It was disappointing to see the numbers leaving after the Lee Smith try when I was coming back in from the toilets, I could hardly get back in scully = god wrote: We have the worst fans in the league. FACT. What we need is the passion Wigan fans have.:3064.gif



Quote: Teessidewire "Not really. KR had quite a good number of 'walk up' fans. They'll all return next year. Wigan fans have a short memory for things like this. The crowd for their play-off game at Widnes a couple of years ago wasn't much above 6000.'"


that was a playoff game though where crowds hardly ever sell well as previous records show. What was your attendance against Huddersfield last year? just over 8,000?

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There is alot of time to go in the season and whilst we where well of the pace last night, that has not been the case all season. We've been very variable, sometimes great other times awful, other times average.

Consistency has been our problem all season. But we are hardly a million points off Warrington and Huddersfield. Wigan I think have escaped Saints, but Wigan, Warrington and Huddersfield all have to play each other.

A win next week for Saints , puts us either a point behind Warrington or a point infront, depending on Warringtons result this weekend.

It's a long time before the season finishes and I'm not ready to give it up after a poor performance.

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Quote: Orrell Lad "'We Are The Champions'.'"

Nah. It was a $hitter one. No words in it just 'woah' and 'na na na' all the way through.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "that was a playoff game though where crowds hardly ever sell well as previous records show. What was your attendance against Huddersfield last year? just over 8,000?'"

Yes, it was, but my point, which you conveniently ignored, was that Saints are not playing on their own ground. Their crowds will return next year, absolutely no problem.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Nah. It was a $hitter one. No words in it just 'woah' and 'na na na' all the way through.'"


Its called the ''dale cavese''.

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