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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Probably explain in the same way that you do when someone dies of cancer, flu related illnesses, in car crashes & the other many various ways that people die on a daily basis.
Nobody should underestimate this virus, BUT it shows a huge hypocrisy how we as a society view death - it happens all the time, all over the world, but we are frequently unmoved by it, simply because it doesn't concern us directly.
Now we are faced with a seemingly new, unstoppable threat, that has many unknowns, people are now pretending they care about people they don't know & in normal circumstances, wouldn't care about.. For all the faux concern for others, it has to be said that the real issue is people's own concern for self. Witness the headless chickens running around supermarkets to see what this is all about... dog eat dog & a simple human survival instinct.'"
Best post ever.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Probably explain in the same way that you do when someone dies of cancer, flu related illnesses, in car crashes & the other many various ways that people die on a daily basis.
Nobody should underestimate this virus, BUT it shows a huge hypocrisy how we as a society view death - it happens all the time, all over the world, but we are frequently unmoved by it, simply because it doesn't concern us directly.
Now we are faced with a seemingly new, unstoppable threat, that has many unknowns, people are now pretending they care about people they don't know & in normal circumstances, wouldn't care about.. For all the faux concern for others, it has to be said that the real issue is people's own concern for self. Witness the headless chickens running around supermarkets to see what this is all about... dog eat dog & a simple human survival instinct.'"
Well said mate totally agree.....
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Probably explain in the same way that you do when someone dies of cancer, flu related illnesses, in car crashes & the other many various ways that people die on a daily basis.
Nobody should underestimate this virus, BUT it shows a huge hypocrisy how we as a society view death - it happens all the time, all over the world, but we are frequently unmoved by it, simply because it doesn't concern us directly.
Now we are faced with a seemingly new, unstoppable threat, that has many unknowns, people are now pretending they care about people they don't know & in normal circumstances, wouldn't care about.. For all the faux concern for others, it has to be said that the real issue is people's own concern for self. Witness the headless chickens running around supermarkets to see what this is all about... dog eat dog & a simple human survival instinct.'"
So are you advocating that “normal circumstances “ be resumed and the various containment/delay measures be removed?
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
And you'll rise high today,
Fly away, Far away,
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| Quote: Superblue "So are you advocating that “normal circumstances “ be resumed and the various containment/delay measures be removed?
Hmmmm, where do I say that?
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Hmmmm, where do I say that?'"
Ok, I take it you are not advocating any of that.
It just seemed to me that you were equating coronavirus deaths to other causes of death, cancer, flu, car crashes, etc and that no special measures to counter coronavirus need be implemented.
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
And you'll rise high today,
Fly away, Far away,
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| Quote: Superblue "Ok, I take it you are not advocating any of that.
Not at all. I was merely pointing out that attitude to death by coronavirus is totally different to death by any other illness or method, simply because selfish people are in fear of being a victim themselves.
I certainly don't recall a classified rundown of how many people die from,.say cancer, on a daily basis during the news bulletins in recent times?
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| Possibly because cancer isn't contagious, can be treated for the large part and won't kill you in a matter of days. Weird that all these countries and global medical experts are making such a fuss over nothing!??! This virus may end up not claiming a relatively large number of lives but clearly erring on the side of caution is needed....bulk buying, however, is the behaviour of selfish morons.
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
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| Cancer hits 1 in 2 of us. That's far more than this virus is likely to hit. It also kills a fair % of those 1 in 2, again probably a similar %, or more, compared to patients who will get covid 19.
I'm waiting for a death from cancer numbers update on the news bulletins - I won't be holding my breath for it tho...
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| It isnt the number of direct deaths that this virus and its impact should be measured in though....can you not see that?
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Cancer hits 1 in 2 of us. That's far more than this virus is likely to hit. It also kills a fair % of those 1 in 2, again probably a similar %, or more, compared to patients who will get covid 19.
I'm waiting for a death from cancer numbers update on the news bulletins - I won't be holding my breath for it tho...'"
Cancer hits 1 in 2 of us? Are you claiming that 50% of the population get cancer?
And as for this cov-19, 21 people have died since it hit the UK. Most of them with underlying health problems. I'll wager more than 21 people have died from accidents and road crashes since this disease sent our country into hysteria.
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| Its a virus not a disease. Why do people keep comparing numbers of other methods of death? Health services are already creaking with cancer, road deaths, seasonal flu etc etc so what the world doesnt need is a highly contagious virus romping across the world to which we have no immunity - which will kill likely 1-2% but hospitalise around 15% ON TOP OF all those other things people get ill with/die of.
The selfishness is not just in the bulk-buying but with the attidude 'well it wont kill me' but you may pass it on to someone who may become gravely ill/die.
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| Quote: Moe syslak "Cancer hits 1 in 2 of us? Are you claiming that 50% of the population get cancer?
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This is the figure that is no widely used and it is believable. Cancer is stochastic i.e. there is no safe threshold for carcinogens whereby below a certain dose you are safe and above it you will get the disease. This is why some people can smoke all their lives without ill effect and then get run over by a bus in their 90's whilst other non-smokers get lung cancer. Of course if you do smoke you greatly increase the chance of getting cancer.
In short the longer you live the greater the chance of getting some form of cancer. For men, if you live long enough, you are very likely to get prostate cancer but, as the cancer is very slow to progress, you also have a good chance of dying of old age before it gets you.
As medicine progresses we eradicate the diseases that might previously have killed us but, to quote Benjamin Franklin, “There are only two certainties in life – death and taxes”. In other words – you’ve got to die of something and, as you reduce deaths from other causes., so the risk of cancer increases.
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| Goodness me, what a cheerful thread.
I'm suprised the onine equivalent of that bible bashing bloke on Fletcher St hasn't turned up on here to start quoting the book of revelations.
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| Right.
With the inevitable state of emergency, I've decided to go early.
I'M GOING LOOTING
I'm after a 4K 50" wide-screen
Laptop
Soundbar
Microwave
Oh, and the ubiquitous bog roll.
Anyone joining me?
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Right.
With the inevitable state of emergency, I've decided to go early.
I'M GOING LOOTING
I'm after a 4K 50" wide-screen
Laptop
Soundbar
Microwave
Oh, and the ubiquitous bog roll.
Anyone joining me?'"
Can you pick me up a couple of cases of Bristol Cream please, I'm down to my last 100 bottles.
Oh, and a Terry's Chocolate Orange please.
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