Not an Everton fan, but do you think the atmosphere at Goodison would’ve been what it was towards the end of the season had Rafa Benitez still been in charge? Or would the discontent and the frustrations on the terraces towards the manager, the board and team, which was ongoing for sometime, still have been evident?

It's definitely possible. Lampard did seem to help in changing the atmosphere. But he was brought in with 4 or 5 months to go. Not with 8 weeks left.

As I mention, at a certain point, the performances looked no better under Lampard then they did Benitez. So that's kind of my reasoning for sacking Powell now maybe not being that ideal. As there are still going to be underlying issues...

Everton - Losing big games in the last 10 minutes. And unable to defend set-pieces.
Wire - Losing big games in the last 10-20 minutes. And unable to defend the line.

We were still a very bad team even under Lampard. The main catalyst for the fight, sprit and desire to keep going was ultimately the fans getting behind the team.

Maybe putting someone else in charge would spur the team on to win the next few games to keep us up. And in doing so, will keep fans spirits up.

But since Everton fans were never exactly welcoming to Benitez, Wire fans were still somewhat excited about the prospect of Powell taking us to the next step with a rebuild, the board won't realistically remove Powell. He's still capable of getting us to score points, we just can't defend and we forfeit leads too easily. As much as the fight should come from the coach, it's just not happening, so from experience, it falls on us.

So either fans need to make a massive protest now to get Powell out, and not just say it on Forums and Social Media, but a full on protest to make it happen as the club probably won't at this stage. If fans aren't going to do that, then we do kind of need to put the complaining aside for now, just at the stadium, until we get through this mess.

With all due respect you can't compare these clubs in terms of fans expectations.

Wakey play in a ground that looks like downtown Baghdad, with a bang average team (Bar 2 diamonds) on a budget of about 68p and no hope of finishing above mid table at best every year.

Wire however play and train in state of the art facilities, we are bank rolled by two multi-millionaires with a team (on paper at least) that some clubs can only dream of. We are littered with internationals and marquee names who until recently, were not expected to finish outside the top 4 at the bare minimum.

So you see, Wakey fans are happy to accept mediocrity and spend every season waiting for those or or two "big" wins, because that's as good as it gets. Wire fans however (or the ones with any sense at least), demand more from the players and the club because when you have a team with the names and talent like we do, and the amount of money and investment that's been pumped into the club; plus the recent history of success with the LLS and the Challenge cup. That's where the bar should be set.

And if the players cant handle criticism and frustration from the fans after only winning 4 games from the last 19, then they aren't in the right job. 8th time this season I think it is we've blown a 2 score lead in the last 15 minutes. You can't put any blame on the fans here. The fans on the whole have stuck with the lads all season but this last month has been the straw that's broken even the most staunchest "Real fans" back. Enough is enough.

Spot on fella.

Please point out the insult if you don't mind.

Totally agree..the paying spectator pays his money to be entertained and we are clearly not being entertained

Shame we can't transfer out some of our fans. Over the past 2/3/4/5 weeks, I don't think I've read, on any forum, such spoilt, self entitled drivel - even on redvee. Even on Redcafe (I'm not a Utd fan), the forum for one of the largest sporting entities; one of the most successful entities; I haven't read so much disdain and self entitlement.

If we do go down, which I don't think we will; the one crumb of comfort will be to know that our sizable contingent of moaning fans will be peeved off.

As a club, our fans could learn quite a few lessons from proper supporters like Everton (I'm not an Everton fan).

You got a season ticket mate?

and there you have it you EXPECT. you have no right to expect anything, you have just described your club trying to buy success from a bunch of mercenaries who get paid but have no love for your club and will receive none in return.
You still even in this post look down on another club who have beaten you three times this season and may well have saved themselves from being sent down by doing just that - and have put you in the position you find yourselves in! they have done that by sticking together (and I have no love for Wakefield - cant stand the club and are willing them to finally go down this season, but credit where its due!)
When you haven't got what you wanted you have had behaved like spoilt kids and had a tantrum. ........and yet you expect the players to behave any less entitled than you.......... says it all really.

No, because of my work patterns. Is that ok with you mate?

Good God, imagine having to work with the bellend??

Try getting a circus season ticket.

Lol