It's a case of who we have fit.
2/3 weeks off Toby and Philbin and Evans coming back in so the bench will look much healthier.

Disappointing that Tony Smith uses the injury card this week and Keiron Cunningham didn't despite Sts being decimated at hb.
Wire need a prop back soon. Let Asiteasy go either way.

But you put /Grix? So is he fit yet? If so then two little guys on the bench goes away. Grix in at 13, then you have Harrison, England, Dwyer and King on the bench which looks better. Whos' actually injured right now? I can't keep track of who's out of favour and who's sidelined.

Edit: Nevermind, you dropped Grixs' name.

I did.
Trying to look too far ahead, I realised what matters is now.
Yes Patton I give the bench spot because he could be the future and we need some cover at halfback because were thin on 3/4 quality.
Dwyer in because we lack quality props and Clark will need a break without a dominant pack to run with, it will be asked to do more defence.

Revisited magic 2014 report wire v saints The teams are more or less the same as in 2015. On paper I'd say saints were the strongest. www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/m ... -st-helens

Revisited magic 2014 report wire v saints The teams are more or less the same as in 2015. On paper I'd say saints were the strongest. www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/m ... -st-helens

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Please God, this must happen

Tonight, Myler has been more anonymous than a grey man, in a grey suit, at a convention for 10,000 grey men. The living endorsement of the phrase " or champagne"

GO'B isn't good enough at this level. Years of evidence (he's 24) proves this.

Patton isn't at the level we need (week in, week out), yet.

So, until we recruit at Half-Back (an ESSENTIALITY) for next season, we need Ratchford and Bridge at 6&7

Never has it been so obvious as tonight either Lefty.
Whoever we have lined up for hb I can't wait for but we have problem that we can fix this season by simply putting our two best most experienced backs together.
Long term answer it possibly isn't but it'll do till November.

Never more was it proved with Clarke's half time "heat map" where PTB's are taken.
All that possession, and 2 tries, against a team who aren't exactly "ripping up trees" themselves

The only way we will get to old trafford this season is if Mr Moran gets the team complimentary tickets for the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand

Ratchford has been great at fullback, by virtue of his agility and the space he is afforded from fullback. Instead of keeping him there, you want him to be moved to scrum half, despite the fact that he isn't known either for his organisational ability nor his kicking game?

YES

I'll have Ratchford at halfback if it means he wont do that stupid immature taking one handed carry that tells the entire world, "look at me I'm running this ball, I'm not passing it because I'm holding it in one hand, if you want to make a one on one steal come and have go I'm fair game, in fact I'll do it under my own sticks to gift you an easy try"

no reason to carry the ball like he does....he would be better with the ball in two hands...and he would create even more doubt in the defenders minds and would be even more devastating.

stop it ....
(in the voice of Mick Morgan) ....you dick 'ead

I'm sure whitehead attacked the ball. When you see the front view you see him Palm the ball out of ratchfords hand.

Shh now, don't talk sense here..

I am a great fan of Ratchford,but he was found wanting at times tonight & the one handed carry needs to be dropped. I thought his positioning to receive Ormesby's pass for Currie's try was excellent.