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Guardian today says Poching is looking for a head coaches role for next year, or at least it is time for him to reach for it.

Marshall is taking time out to decide on his future, whatever that means.

I've been thinking about the Agar thing since it was announced, and whilst I'm still not thrilled about him coming on board, you have to at least admire a little bit, that he's had the balls to say "i want to leave, i want to go be somewhere and compete". People complain all the time about standards dropping and teams in the bottom half of the league stagnating/standing still. So its a bit refresshing to see this kind of attitude from someone at a lower placed club.

PLUS we've got a better chance of getting danny kirmond if Waterhouse does pack in at the end of the year.

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Bit more of Smiths thinking here:

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _for_Agar/
Bit more of Smiths thinking here:

www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... _for_Agar/


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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Guardian today says Poching is looking for a head coaches role for next year, or at least it is time for him to reach for it.

Marshall is taking time out to decide on his future, whatever that means.

I've been thinking about the Agar thing since it was announced, and whilst I'm still not thrilled about him coming on board, you have to at least admire a little bit, that he's had the balls to say "i want to leave, i want to go be somewhere and compete". People complain all the time about standards dropping and teams in the bottom half of the league stagnating/standing still. So its a bit refresshing to see this kind of attitude from someone at a lower placed club.

PLUS we've got a better chance of getting danny kirmond if Waterhouse does pack in at the end of the year.'"


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Swear to God this is the most astonishing news I have ever heard!! It could only be topped if I were to hear that Barry Chuckle has become president of the United States. That said I would bet Barry would do a better job in that role than Agar will do at Wire. He is completely dire he has a CV FULL of failure on every level - Hull - horrendous - Wakefield - taking us to extinction and France - the most under performing side in the world cup. It really is the most incredible news I have ever heard - see you in the bottom half of the table next year. Unbelievable.

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Seems to be a case of 'freshening' things up from a coaching standpoint which I can relate to, dealing with the same coaches and players does tend to breed familiarity and someone coming in from outside can see things that people closer may miss.

And as someone has already said the concern was with Agar in and Smith out but we have both until 2016.

Reading the Guardian today I doubt Smith is planning on going anywhere by his own choice anytime in the future.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Swear to God this is the most astonishing news I have ever heard!! It could only be topped if I were to hear that Barry Chuckle has become president of the United States. That said I would bet Barry would do a better job in that role than Agar will do at Wire. He is completely dire he has a CV FULL of failure on every level - Hull - horrendous - Wakefield - taking us to extinction and France - the most under performing side in the world cup. It really is the most incredible news I have ever heard - see you in the bottom half of the table next year. Unbelievable.'"


That's the spirit pal get yourself over to the Wigan forum and tell em John Monie was a garbage coach because he won nowt with France... its that simple it really is.....

And just to help you along the most under performing side at the world cup were Wales and their head coach has just ousted the most successful British coach in the super league era at the Richest Club in the world............

if you want to have a laugh at another club you've come to the Wrong place unlike Richard Agar.

I'll laugh my tits off when you lot give Bobbie Goulding an interview.......... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Smith on leaving: "It’s nice to have had some interest and very flattering, but I haven’t been tempted to do that and nor do I think I will in the future.”

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Quote: the flying biscuit "That's the spirit pal get yourself over to the Wigan forum and tell em John Monie was a garbage coach because he won nowt with France... its that simple it really is.....

And just to help you along the most under performing side at the world cup were Wales and their head coach has just ousted the most successful British coach in the super league era at the Richest Club in the world............

if you want to have a laugh at another club you've come to the Wrong place unlike Richard Agar.

I'll laugh my tits off when you lot give Bobbie Goulding an interview..........
Crickey!!! - you honestly believe that Wales were the biggest underperformers in the RL world cup as opposed to France - wow!!!

Oh well heres the evidence - please feel free to make your case for the mighty France who managed to score THREE tries in FIVE HOURS AND TWENTY MINUTES OF RUGBY!!!!! Also just looked at their squad which contained 20 FULL TIME NRL OR SUPER LEAGUE PLAYERS.

Please enlighten me as to your rational!!!! - you seem such a well informed sort of fella

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To be fair though in relation to the Bobby Goulding interview comment, I can hand on heart say that if I was given the choice between Ellie Goulding and Rich Agar to be our coach - I would be more than happy to go with the little pop princess. Agar is desperate - unbelievably bad - he has great ideas like playing almost every player in the team out of position as well as his fav trick of leaving replacements on the bench for the whole match watching their team mates barely able to raise a walk let alone a jog. You have my friend as we say over this way "bought a pup". GL

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This guy ^^^ is definitely not in the Agar fan club

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That guy, needs to lie down in a dark room, and suck some ice cubes, perhaps.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Crickey!!! - you honestly believe that Wales were the biggest underperformers in the RL world cup as opposed to France - wow!!!

Oh well heres the evidence - blah blah bore bore...etc...etc..'"


you did notice that one team was in a more difficult group than the other? And the other was effectively playing at home. ...? You are one switched on individual. .

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Swear to God this is the most astonishing news I have ever heard!! It could only be topped if I were to hear that Barry Chuckle has become president of the United States. That said I would bet Barry would do a better job in that role than Agar will do at Wire. He is completely dire he has a CV FULL of failure on every level - Hull - horrendous - Wakefield - taking us to extinction and France - the most under performing side in the world cup. It really is the most incredible news I have ever heard - see you in the bottom half of the table next year. Unbelievable.'"

A slight over reaction I think - Agar is coming in to be Smiths assistant - one of the first team coaches - in the same way that Poching and Marshall are - and tbf, they don't have a massive impact on the real decision making!

Smith & Moran KNOW what they doing - having watched my team for 35+ years, and seeing the transformation under these guys, I know, given the choice between their thoughts and yours, who's I'll be trusting!!!!

Whether he's poop or not - he will still be working for Smith, and he will still be the real decision maker. He's come to be an assistant, and learn. I have no worries about it - certainly not until the end of 2016 - then we will see!

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Guardian today says Poching is looking for a head coaches role for next year, or at least it is time for him to reach for it.

Marshall is taking time out to decide on his future, whatever that means.

I've been thinking about the Agar thing since it was announced, and whilst I'm still not thrilled about him coming on board, you have to at least admire a little bit, that he's had the balls to say "i want to leave, i want to go be somewhere and compete". People complain all the time about standards dropping and teams in the bottom half of the league stagnating/standing still. So its a bit refresshing to see this kind of attitude from someone at a lower placed club.

PLUS we've got a better chance of getting danny kirmond if Waterhouse does pack in at the end of the year.'"


Its an interesting point you make regarding "I want to leave I want to go somewhere and compete" - its a little bit like Jack Duckworth saying I don't want to sleep with Vera anymore I want to sleep with Cindy Crawford. Or maybe like me leaving school with four low grade GCSE's and saying "I don't want to go to Worksop College of further Education I want to go to Harvard"
You guys are in for a real treat with Richard - my god I am still totally amazed - that said I am delighted we no longer have to suffer with him at the helm. As I write I am still laughing out loud at this absolutely incredible news - honestly guys and this is no wind up it really is the most unbelievable news I have ever heard - he is awful ask the thousands of Wakey fans and the significantly greater thousands of Hull FC fans. Hull being a club that spent the full cap with a larger than average fan base and income where he was in charge for years and very much in a position to "compete" - but alas he made a dogs dinner of it - and made the club a laughing stock.
I still can not get over this news it is bizarre in the extreme

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Quote: matt6169 "
Smith & Moran KNOW what they doing - having watched my team for 35+ years, and seeing the transformation under these guys, I know, given the choice between their thoughts and yours, who's I'll be trusting!!!!
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TS will be in charge and Agar will be there to implement the regimes, training methods etc that TS wants. Agar will have his input and will bring some new things to the club, but it will be TS that has the final say.

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Quote: worksopwildcat "Its an interesting point you make regarding "I want to leave I want to go somewhere and compete" - its a little bit like Jack Duckworth saying I don't want to sleep with Vera anymore I want to sleep with Cindy Crawford. Or maybe like me leaving school with four low grade GCSE's and saying "I don't want to go to Worksop College of further Education I want to go to Harvard"
You guys are in for a real treat with Richard - my god I am still totally amazed - that said I am delighted we no longer have to suffer with him at the helm. As I write I am still laughing out loud at this absolutely incredible news - honestly guys and this is no wind up it really is the most unbelievable news I have ever heard - he is awful ask the thousands of Wakey fans and the significantly greater thousands of Hull FC fans. Hull being a club that spent the full cap with a larger than average fan base and income where he was in charge for years and very much in a position to "compete" - but alas he made a dogs dinner of it - and made the club a laughing stock.
I still can not get over this news it is bizarre in the extreme'"


I'm amazed at how angry you are with Agar.

Your club has more issues than just him, hence why he left a head coach position to become an assistant. He has ambition and wants to learn from the best and IMPROVE. He couldn't do that at a bottom-table club like Wakefield.

I think you need to come off the internet for a while and have a rest.

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