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Quote: Foz "Here's a poser for you all. People mention anything from two years to a life ban, i don't condone his behavior, in fact i take great pleasure in it being a Wigan player BUT how does his "alleged" mishap compare to say Ben Cockaynes? For me personally, if Hock gets two years then Cockayne should have got a life ban. Hmmmm.......'"

which cockayne offence are you on about ?

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Quote: Tony Catsmith "which cockayne offence are you on about ?'"


Being a head.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Being a head.'"


surely thats his mam and dads fault?

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Quote: Tony Catsmith "surely thats his mam and dads fault?'"
The one where he played keepy uppy with that Fellas head.

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Quote: Foz "The one where he played keepy uppy with that Fellas head.'"


well, that's completely different, there isn't a global testing association for cock tards with violent incidents, it's a criminal matter and the club have reacted as what they see fit towards their employee, if hock's B sample is confirmed as positive he gets banned as part of the agreement with WADA, it's not wigan's decision, they may decide to stand by him, they may decide to terminate his contract, but it won't be their decision whether he get's an enforced holiday or not.


now, before you borrow your missus' soapbox( icon_wink.gif ) i'm not saying i agree with it as kicking the crap out of someone to within an inch of their life is a much worse act than reacreational narcotics, but again, its not the clubs decision on this one.

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Quote: Tony Catsmith "well, that's completely different, there isn't a global testing association for cock tards with violent incidents, it's a criminal matter and the club have reacted as what they see fit towards their employee, if hock's B sample is confirmed as positive he gets banned as part of the agreement with WADA, it's not wigan's decision, they may decide to stand by him, they may decide to terminate his contract, but it won't be their decision whether he get's an enforced holiday or not.


now, before you borrow your missus' soapbox(
By the way . icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif The amount of time ive said "are you STILL on the same post?!?!?!" icon_lol.gif

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Is it today that we find out the results of his 'B' sample?

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Quote: howks1030 "Is it today that we find out the results of his 'B' sample?'"


Doubt we will find out today but it's today that the results are due.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "I'm not defending him but

He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.

However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:

"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".

"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".

So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.


Training as a pharmacist i know a lot about substances in sport. the said substance is not available over the counter at a pharmacy in any medication. Second the said medication that he could of taken is only available in the U.S. And thirdly the club are licensed to provide medication for the players as they have physio's, doctor's & pharmacist working for them. So from what i can gather either the club have imported the drug from America and used it or he will be tested positive for the use of Cocaine

the source that is available to me is
www.uksport.gov.uk/did
this has a list of all prohibited and non-prohibited drugs for use in sports
Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "I'm not defending him but

He hasn't been tested positive for Cocaine, he has tested positive for Benzoylecgonine which is found in cocaine.

However upon doing a little research on the substance i came across this:

"Small amounts may be traced back to certain OTC (over the counter) medications, after having been metabolised in the liver".

"Benzoylecgonine is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient in the prescription drug Esterom, a topical solution used for the relief of muscle pain".

So depending on how much substance has been found in the test then this could pose as a legitimate excuse.


Training as a pharmacist i know a lot about substances in sport. the said substance is not available over the counter at a pharmacy in any medication. Second the said medication that he could of taken is only available in the U.S. And thirdly the club are licensed to provide medication for the players as they have physio's, doctor's & pharmacist working for them. So from what i can gather either the club have imported the drug from America and used it or he will be tested positive for the use of Cocaine

the source that is available to me is
www.uksport.gov.uk/did
this has a list of all prohibited and non-prohibited drugs for use in sports


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