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Quote: ninearches "With a game that could be won on goal kicks ,can Ratchford reasonably not play?'"



I like Ratchford but Thewlis' kick percentage has improved a lot recently.

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Quote: ninearches "With a game that could be won on goal kicks ,can Ratchford reasonably not play?'"


If we played Ratchford anywhere in our back-line, he will be targeted and exploited by Wigan.

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I am pretty sure Musgrove will play. He is big, very experienced and perhaps a bit more motivated with silverware on offer.

It sounds as though Crowther is fit again and on the basis of his workaholic contributions this year I would expect him to play.

Bullock had a good game on his last outing but his defence worries me. He tends to be a bit flat footed. And why has he just managed to turn his performance up a notch a third of the way through the season ?

Holroyd still needs to put on muscle as he is a bit too light taking the ball up. His tackling however is really motoring and Im looking forward to seeing him next year.

So for me, it's a toss up between leaving Holroyd or Bullock out of the 17. My guess is that Holroyd will drop out, but who knows ?

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Quote: Or thane "Going off how Burgess has picked his team each week no he doesn't. Crowther has missed 2 games now so he doesn't have a place to keep does he, and as Burgess has shown nobody just steps back in to the team unless it's to replace someone who's had a bad game.
Bullock deserves his spot and so does Holroyd, Musgrove didn't do anything wrong and Burgess clearly likes him.
If Bullock didn't have the game he did last week Crowther would take the bench spot, but Bullock put in a big display so deserves to keep his spot, and Holroyd had a great game so deserves his spot.
You can't expect Crowther to simply step back in after 2 weeks out.'"


It was a shoulder injury for Crowther but you are right regarding going straight back into the team. Wrench is in that position now of waiting for his chance again. Under Price and most definitely Powell (Mata’utia) they would go straight back in regardless of form or not.

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Quote: Wires71 "I like Ratchford but Thewlis' kick percentage has improved a lot recently.'"


Spoken with a few people who think he should play for his goal kicking being that it’s a final. Where would you play him he is not going to replace current centres and other options well the player are doing well there to which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.

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Quote: karetaker "which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.'"


Not least because, if he was picked for his goal kicking, he'd need to be on the field all of the time.

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Crowther will be straight back in to the 17. Burgess loves him.

The team picks itself IMO. The only question mark is Wood or Bullock on the bench and I think he'll go with Bullock.

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Quote: karetaker "Spoken with a few people who think he should play for his goal kicking being that it’s a final. Where would you play him he is not going to replace current centres and other options well the player are doing well there to which would leave a bench spot but that would be a waste.'"


Yeah I agree with you. If Thewlis had not improved his kicking then there would be a case for Ratch over Tai.

Just watch Thewlis shank a vital one tomorrow icon_cry.gif

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Quote: Wires71 "Yeah I agree with you. If Thewlis had not improved his kicking then there would be a case for Ratch over Tai.

Just watch Thewlis shank a vital one tomorrow
For evidence of shanking a vital one under pressure, I refer you to the kick that would have given Stef the world record! Shows that it can happen to even the best.

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Quote: The Speculator "For evidence of shanking a vital one under pressure, I refer you to the kick that would have given Stef the world record! Shows that it can happen to even the best.'"


and by comparison it wasn't a difficult kick

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For me it’s hard to drop anyone out but, I can see the positives in playing Stef. Might need the extra experience in the final and he can also kick. But also with saying that, there has to come a time when we use a new kicker and Thewlis has been on the money for me.

Tough one to call but in Sam we trust. Hoping for a cracker of a game. Now the wire.

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Sam will pick what he thinks is the best team on the day and hopefully they will all bust a gut for the Primrose & Blue!

That will do for me.....Come on you Wire!

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Quote: Howfenwire "For me it’s hard to drop anyone out but, I can see the positives in playing Stef. Might need the extra experience in the final and he can also kick. But also with saying that, there has to come a time when we use a new kicker and Thewlis has been on the money for me.

Tough one to call but in Sam we trust. Hoping for a cracker of a game. Now the wire.'"


It’s not a tough one to call - Ratchford should be nowhere near that 17 and thankfully I think Burgess would agree. He was the worst Wire player last week, luckily for him Rocky Hampshire made him look good. Ratchford should be behind glass only to be broken in case of an emergency.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "It’s not a tough one to call - Ratchford should be nowhere near that 17 and thankfully I think Burgess would agree. He was the worst Wire player last week, luckily for him Rocky Hampshire made him look good. Ratchford should be behind glass only to be broken in case of an emergency.'"


It's tricky with Ratchford the connection is an emotional one I remember sat close to the pitch at OT in 2013 watching him come back to the sidelines in his boot and felt his frustration in not being able to directly influence the game. Being the best player on the pitch in the 2018 gf and still losing. We want him to do well and have the success he deserved.

Truth is though as others have said he's not in the best 17 in the club anymore and although i still feel he has a job to play in the squad he isn't in our strongest 17 and shouldn't play.

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