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Quote: karetaker "Have you forgot Fitzgibbon, was a long time a go since we signed him. I know it was said somewhere about Ratchford covering hooker next season but how far off is Doolan getting his chance. And Was said we still looking for a prop.'"


No hadn't forgotten Fitzgibbon, but we have Currie and Fitzgibbon 11 & 12 and Nicholson 13. we have players like Philbin & Harrison who can do a job in the backrow, but we feel a little light there.

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We need a prop minimum, ideally 2.
But on topic. I would have hoped Wrench would be the centre of 2024.
We’ll see what the off season does to him.
Competition his healthy.

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Quote: rubber duckie "We need a prop minimum, ideally 2.
But on topic. I would have hoped Wrench would be the centre of 2024.
We’ll see what the off season does to him.
Competition his healthy.'"


I assume if you're bringing in 2 more props you would try and get rid of someone already in the squad?

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Wrench will be 22 at the start of next season. He isn't a kid. I can understand us nurturing him back slowly after his acl injury, but if he's not being selected, his age should not be a factor.

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He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?

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Quote: Wires71 "He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?'"

Not every person develops at the same time.

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Quote: Wires71 "He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?'"


When the medical and conditioning staff who work with him day in, day out are confident that he is not taking undue risk of further long term injuries by playing every week.

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Raised my eyebrows at the signing of 2 centres.
Combined with what Chambers said about Wrench, and we've currently got King and Ratch for next year.
5 into 2 doesn't go.

Ratch to back up hooker?
King - depends which King we get. Could play 'on fire' or be loaned out.

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Quote: Captain Hook "I read it that that was Chamber’s view as well ie code for I don’t rate him as a player but it would be very unprofessional of me to say so.'"


Exactly what I read into it and hardly the Love Affair reported by others.

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Quote: just_browny "When the medical and conditioning staff who work with him day in, day out are confident that he is not taking undue risk of further long term injuries by playing every week.'"


Or when mata'utia is injured.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Exactly what I read into it and hardly the Love Affair reported by others.'"

Off to Widnes would seem to confirm this view!

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I don't think Thewlis or Wrench are wingers. Yes, they are fast, but that's about it. Surely we will see Wrench gradually introduced to centre whilst Thewlis will eventually take the full back spot. The ACL injury took Currie more than a year to recover from, so hopefully Wrench will be physically and mentally a much better player next year. For me though Wrench still needs to up his game at centre to be an automatic first choice pick but it sounds as though the coach has no doubts that he will get there.

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Agreed WO.
But whilst Thewlis is quick, I certainly don't see him as an out and out speedster like top class wingers or full backs.
I appreciate there's a lot more to make a good full back than speed and I can see him getting there if he continues to develop.
I also think it would be a good thing if he eventually moved out of the firing line when taking the ball up on the early ptb's. The number of head hits he seems to take compared to other wingers is frightening.
He's incredibly brave but needs to be protected from them.

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Quote: fez1 "Agreed WO.
But whilst Thewlis is quick, I certainly don't see him as an out and out speedster like top class wingers or full backs.
I appreciate there's a lot more to make a good full back than speed and I can see him getting there if he continues to develop.
I also think it would be a good thing if he eventually moved out of the firing line when taking the ball up on the early ptb's. The number of head hits he seems to take compared to other wingers is frightening.
He's incredibly brave but needs to be protected from them.'"


He's a bit like Welsby, who also looked very average on the wing. I've no doubt he'll be a top class, intelligent fullback and first choice soon enough. I just wish he had a bit more pace and acceleration, but you can't have everything.

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Connor's footwork and speed to setup the Nicholson chance was top notch, and there aren't many centres around with the ability to beat a man 1 on 1 like that.

Debate truly over. The lad is class, and should be part of the first team core for the next decade.

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