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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the modern game, there should be no hiding place when every facet of your performance is measured, recorded and open to scrutiny.
How Powell can sit down and look at the players stats (I'm giving him something of the benefit of the doubt that [isomeone[/i scrutinises them), see those figures for Holmes and think "I'm good with that"?
I soured on Holmes pretty quickly. He has the air of someone who didn't want to leave Cas but came for a bigger salary and to help out Mr Powell, safe in the knowledge he'd get preferential treatment.
And here we are, not waving but drowning.'"
Yeah he was in tears that final game he played down Wheldon Road.
He was the one who wanted it though and moved away.
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| Quote: ratticusfinch "6 carries
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4 missed tackles
1 error (other than his inclusion)
That is unjustifiable and absolutely pitiful. How this man has not made it into the reserves is beyond me. No wonder Cooper and King refused to play in the reserves when that buffoon is never dropped.'"
How did they compare to Currie's?
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| Currie made the same amount of tackles (2icon_cool.gif and missed 1. He made 11 carries for 61m. Not great but considerably better than Holmes’. Currie gave away no penalties, Holmes 1.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "I was quite pleased with this signing as although I obviously didn't see a lot of Cas games apart from the games against us and highlights, he seemed just the kind of guy most squads would like to have, industrious with an eye for a try, a PRO. I could also see why Powell would bring one of his leading lights with him to help get his point across and set the standard "challenge accepted" and all that..
Well never mind Kenny Edwards on current form I'd take Kenny Everett or Jimmy Edwards take your pick'"
Kenny Everett. Now I'm thinking about lowered newspapers again and another certain dance troupe.
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| The Holmes + Mata debate is just one example of many why supporters have lost faith in Powell but the question is how and why a player like Holmes has become so bad compared to his Cas days?He seems like a man who does not want to be here and regrets his move but I’ll bet he’s still picking up a tidy wage.
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| Quote: runningman29 "The Holmes + Mata debate is just one example of many why supporters have lost faith in Powell but the question is how and why a player like Holmes has become so bad compared to his Cas days?He seems like a man who does not want to be here and regrets his move but I’ll bet he’s still picking up a tidy wage.'"
We have many players that were better at their previous clubs than with us. Widdop and Williams for starters.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the modern game, there should be no hiding place when every facet of your performance is measured, recorded and open to scrutiny.
How Powell can sit down and look at the players stats (I'm giving him something of the benefit of the doubt that [isomeone[/i scrutinises them), see those figures for Holmes and think "I'm good with that"?
I soured on Holmes pretty quickly. He has the air of someone who didn't want to leave Cas but came for a bigger salary and to help out Mr Powell, safe in the knowledge he'd get preferential treatment.
And here we are, not waving but drowning.'"
Holmes, eyes and ears?
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "In the modern game, there should be no hiding place when every facet of your performance is measured, recorded and open to scrutiny.
How Powell can sit down and look at the players stats (I'm giving him something of the benefit of the doubt that [isomeone[/i scrutinises them), see those figures for Holmes and think "I'm good with that"?
I soured on Holmes pretty quickly. He has the air of someone who didn't want to leave Cas but came for a bigger salary and to help out Mr Powell, safe in the knowledge he'd get preferential treatment.
And here we are, not waving but drowning.'"
Maybe a good question for the next (handpicked) fans forum?
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| The ex Cas players failing to perform has been at the heart of the reason Powell has struggled this year. He really needed those guys to set the tone. The fact they are not playing up to their Cas level undermines Powell in the eyes of everybody.
Sadly I think they are just past their best.
Reminds me of when Dalglish went to Newcastle United and brought in Barnes and Rush.
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| The pack is beaten from pillar to post every week. Holmes is a big part in that problem.
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| Holmes has been one of my favourite 2nd rowers for years. He's aggressive packs a punch in attack and defense, will tackle all day long and has good ball handling skills.........so why has he brought none of that with him here?
Like someone said, i wonder if he's regretted the move and playing on the opposite side of the pitch than normal has affected him?
Nicholson should play instead of him next week, put Holmes on the bench to rotate with J.Clark at 13, that's by far the best performance i've seen from him for us playing like that.
On another note does anyone know why Nicholson was dropped for KR, was it one of those easing him in slowly because of his age stupid decisions??
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| On his current form we could be Holmeless by the end of the year.
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| Quote: Gazwire "On his current form we could be Holmeless by the end of the year.'"
Powell is too stubborn, to release Holmes, he gave him a 3 year contract.
I assume you are alluding to the fact that if we get relegated, then Holmes` contract is invalid, but if Powell was allowed to stay, he would give Holmes a new contract anyway.
Btw, Currie is just as poor, and he isn`t playing on the wrong side of the field.
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| Quote: Boss Hog "Powell is too stubborn, to release Holmes, he gave him a 3 year contract.
I assume you are alluding to the fact that if we get relegated, then Holmes` contract is invalid, but if Powell was allowed to stay, he would give Holmes a new contract anyway.
Btw, Currie is just as poor, and he isn`t playing on the wrong side of the field.'"
I was hoping Currie would have been one of the first out - he's been coasting for the last few years. He epitomises everything that is wrong at the club.
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| Quote: Boss Hog "Powell is too stubborn, to release Holmes, he gave him a 3 year contract.
I assume you are alluding to the fact that if we get relegated, then Holmes` contract is invalid, but if Powell was allowed to stay, he would give Holmes a new contract anyway.
Btw, Currie is just as poor, and he isn`t playing on the wrong side of the field.'"
The matt sturm deal, might have to get renamed, the oli holmes deal
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