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Quote: Smiffy27 "Yep and I would take Smith over Price as well. But blimey our "fans" gave him & Agar so much stick towards the end. I cannot remember a positive word written on here about Agar unless it was a reference to his squash.
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That's probably because there wasn't much positive to say about Agar, during his time with us. Hull fans said exactly the same. Despite a CC Cup win, last year, Leeds fans aren't exactly enamoured with him.

(iirc) we jettisoned Willie Poching, when we were playing sensational rugby, to shoehorn Smith's mate into the coaching set up. Part of the start of our demise (again, imo)

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Didn't Agar and Smith get criticism because the results were poor?

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "

(iirc) we jettisoned Willie Poching, when we were playing sensational rugby, to shoehorn Smith's mate into the coaching set up. Part of the start of our demise (again, imo)'"


I wondered what Poching had done wrong at the time. If it wasnt broke etc.

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Quote: Wires71 "I wondered what Poching had done wrong at the time. If it wasnt broke etc.'"


Didn't like playing squash?

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20 20 hindsight is a wonderful thing for all the support I gave Smith and I do still like the guy and for all the bashing that Agar got from every angle I understand that at the end of their tenure Smith had almost given up was definitely in need of that break and it was Agar that held us together.

Yes it was a poor period for that management partnership but to simply say all the other clubs that Agar has coached think he's poor so it must be true is a little simplistic IMO

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In the case of Agar, people made up their minds that they didn't like him, so any success that Leeds get will be explained as being down to something else.

Its like nobody will consider the idea that Steve McNamara might actually be a good coach. Catalans won the CC and are now in the Grand Final, who is that down to? Must be the 'new world order' really pulling the strings behind the scenes...

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Don't be silly he's McBanana, and is rubbish because he didn't do well with England....like a certain Mr Bennett. I struggle to think of a worse appointment we could've made than Price...even Duckie's Kear would've been preferable.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "In the case of Agar, people made up their minds that they didn't like him, so any success that Leeds get will be explained as being down to something else.

Its like nobody will consider the idea that Steve McNamara might actually be a good coach. Catalans won the CC and are now in the Grand Final, who is that down to? Must be the 'new world order' really pulling the strings behind the scenes...'"

McNamara is obviously a very good coach and he’s actually won a trophy. Why wasn’t he approached?

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With hindsight…
I’d have said TS and Agar tenure under the new CEO was the issue.
Removing TS right to manage the cap, flaunting so much money on Sandow and Gidley and Roberts and disrespecting the importance of a large quality pack.

As far I can see, no club has ever won any major trophy, just a hubcap, with marquee halves. ??

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Quote: rubber duckie "With hindsight…
I’d have said TS and Agar tenure under the new CEO was the issue.
Removing TS right to manage the cap, flaunting so much money on Sandow and Gidley and Roberts and disrespecting the importance of a large quality pack.

As far I can see, no club has ever won any major trophy, just a hubcap, with marquee halves. ??

PACKS WIN GAMES'"


Always refreshing to see Duckie having a rebrand, with his 'PACKS WIN GAMES' slogan.

I was worried that he would become more subdued in his posting, since his 'Dec Patton for Man Of Steel' campaign has seemingly hit a dead end - However, this new direction and rhetoric is something that Duckie will no doubt now push with genuine relish in the months and years to come. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Always refreshing to see Duckie having a rebrand, with his 'PACKS WIN GAMES' slogan.

I was worried that he would become more subdued in his posting, since his 'Dec Patton for Man Of Steel' campaign has seemingly hit a dead end - However, this new direction and rhetoric is something that Duckie will no doubt now push with genuine relish in the months and years to come.

A weeks holiday in his caravan in Rhyl works wonders for the mind.

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Do the backs decide by how much?

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Simple, on the basis that 2 packs would be twice as good, we play 13 forwards in every match, the jobs a good ‘un.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Simple, on the basis that 2 packs would be twice as good, we play 13 forwards in every match, the jobs a good ‘un.'"


Saints just beat Leeds in the Cup early on in the season. Leeds were so short of backs that day that they nearly had two packs out. It was a a very different sort of game and Leeds did so well. But not to be recommended.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Simple, on the basis that 2 packs would be twice as good, we play 13 forwards in every match, the jobs a good ‘un.'"


Hull have tried that for a while now and it doesn't seem to work either.

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