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unforgivable to pick a bench that you have no confidence in.... if a player on your bench isn't good enough to contribute to a big game like tonights, then what is he doing in the club? It's a shambles IMO....everything from recruitment through to tactics and picking a team. Total shambles.

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Quote: Moe syslak "Price has got form for not using all 17 players. Pretty sure he has left Danny walker on the bench a few times.'"

Our pack has been undersized and not tough enough for years. We complain about no creativity near the line and always blame the halfbacks. Forwards create the platform and then of course good coaching helps. If Price goes so must the iconic Briers who must be at least partly to blame. Give Henderson a go'!

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Paul Anderson or ian watson for me. Henderson may not have been part of the problem but we have been so atrocious under price and if he wasn't happy with this he should have walked out on price ages ago and took another job so price couldn't take him down with him.

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We don’t just need a prop. We need a new coach, new assistant, a new CEO, a halfback, a prop and a back rower.

Time to get that cheque book back out the draw Simon.

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I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.

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Quote: Or thane "I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.'"


Unfortunately he is far too close to one or two people at the club who are letting him down.

Time to show some ruthless business sense,

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We're lucky Simon Moran is first & foremost a Warrington fan otherwise we wouldn't have his money.

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Cooper is one of the best prop forwards in the league. Hill can still do a good 40 (but not 80) minutes. Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't). And we've got some good, big framed young lads. Akuala - just doesn't do enough and made the stupidest tackle of the season to get his latest ban.
So yes, one new prop definitely. Maybe in the mould of Bobby Wanbon.

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Quote: Ken Parr's Back Pass "Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't).'"


We totally surrendered the initiative when Price subbed Philbin first half. At that point HIll and Philbin were making big yards and producing tough defence. Then we had some subs by numbers from Price and we got BMM strolling around instead.

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We brought BMM on and they brought Satae on and it was chalk and cheese. Our forwards have on the whole played well for a long time, consistently getting us into the right positions only for our backs to fail miserably. Widdop will be going but id like to see Austin follow him out the door, magic man nowhere near as magic as he thinks he is.

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Cooper, Hill & Philbin have always been our most selected props over the last 3 years. There has been an over reliance on them during that period, we tend to struggle in the pack if one or more of them is missing. Davies or Clarke covering as prop isn’t the answer, they don’t have the presence and go forward we need. It’s a position that needs looking at urgently, Hill isn’t getting any younger & last night was another example that if Cooper doesn’t play we get outmuscled.

Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.

Rob Butler will be handy picky up, when it hopefully gets announced. But we still need another prop, Sita & Latu from what I’ve seen are not the answer.

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Quote: Mighty_Wires88 "Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.'"


Quick ptb??? Really? When? Clark slows the game down for us more than the opposition tacklers do, why does he try to stay standing on the tackle when we have a referee in Liam Moore that flat refuses to call held? It's just plain dumb, the defensive line has been set for 10 seconds by the time he plays the ball. There were even some tackles last night where the whole defensive line could have set themselves, put on a smoking jacket, pulled a hamlet out of one of their socks and smoked the lot before the tackle was complete, and that's even if they had to share a lighter!

Don't understand currie being brought in to any of this he's been really good this season and during our winning run was fantastic. We played out best when price was forced in to king and currie in the second row, that was the lineup that linked our forwards and our backs instead of looking like we play as 2 separate units. The team was much better balanced.

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Quote: Or thane "I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.'"


Not just Moran, Stuart Middleton has been putting more into the club in recent years. Mike Lomax and Lance James probably put in too.

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Every single match attending fan has seen opposition forwards galloping over our pack for the last couple of years and then when we have the ball barely making it over halfway and then the hit and hope Austin kick praying Toby King hasn't fallen asleep. Then what do we use with any spare cash we have is to bring in Latu and Kibula. I'm sure I saw these 2 on a missing persons poster in Golden Square! FFS surely heads have to roll for this ridiculous situation. We should change our chant to "It'll never be our year"! (PS For those who reply "What about the Challenge Cups" I'd say you can win that by playing 3/4 good games. The GF is the big one and everyone knows it....even Catalans won a CC and Salford nearly did!) C'mon Wire get some big nasty props in or you'll struggle to sell season tickets with what is being dished up!

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Quote: rubber duckie "
I’m sick to the feckin back teeth.
How many seasons have we seasons have we said that without 1 or now 2 props, we won’t win a GF?!
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Every season you tell us Wire will "win the lot" eusa_think.gif

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