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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "I'll be highly amused if he signs for Cas or Trinity, as unlikely as it may be. Enjoy the second coming.'"
I think he means that Cas and Wakefield will be highly prone to having clubs poaching their best players, as they aren't the most financially stable?....
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I think he means that Cas and Wakefield will be highly prone to having clubs poaching their best players, as they aren't the most financially stable?....'"
And that's exactly why it would be very amusing if Graham signed for one of them.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I think he means that Cas and Wakefield will be highly prone to having clubs poaching their best players, as they aren't the most financially stable?....'"
Not done much home work has he probably just considering the Yorks clubs wanting to reduce the cap. In any event the game needs to stabilise and have a clear plan perhaps increasing teams in SL over an incremental time without relegation this would allow the UK game to develop its own talent instead of bringing in players from overseas at the end of their careers.
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| Quote: Or thane "He'd be a quality signing for any club, puts in good minutes, tackles like always and will take a drive in everytime he's asked. He developed good ball handling skills in the NRL and constantly switches his attack. Defenders don't know whether he'll take in a drive or pass the ball. Yeah he doesn't have the legs he used to but he's still a workhorse. Put LMS at prop and Graham at 13 and saints will be fine, I'd take him here for a year any day of the week, he'd put the majority of our forwards to shame. But if he is released he'll definately be going to saints
This, he's a brilliant prop and there is still life in the old dog yet. I can't see it being anywhere but saints and he will be a great signing for them, not as useful as Thompson in the long term but in the short term I don't think they will be weakened at all if they bring Graham back.
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| Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "Not done much home work has he probably just considering the Yorks clubs wanting to reduce the cap. In any event the game needs to stabilise and have a clear plan perhaps increasing teams in SL over an incremental time without relegation this would allow the UK game to develop its own talent instead of bringing in players from overseas at the end of their careers.'"
Correct, just makes sweeping statements on financial matters at all sorts of clubs, without having any real tangible knowledge behind them.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Correct, just makes sweeping statements on financial matters at all sorts of clubs, without having any real tangible knowledge behind them.'"
Sweeping financial statements? Which ones would they be? The jokes about the Wire cap and suggesting Wakefield and Cas might consider a bid for their players at the moment? Hardly making outrageous claims there.
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| The sweeping statements are all over our board, you even made one regarding Thompson. Not jokes, just your perception without any truth behind your comments, on financial matters at a number of clubs.
Stop pretending you didn't make any, and where did anyone say they were outrageous.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "The sweeping statements are all over our board, you even made one regarding Thompson. Not jokes, just your perception without any truth behind your comments, on financial matters at a number of clubs.
Stop pretending you didn't make any, and where did anyone say they were outrageous.'"
I think you are just going at Saddened because he's a Saints fan - what he says isn't exactly recent news, with regards to Cas and Wakey. Both are financially 2nd or 3rd tier. It's an embarrassment for our league that they are still allowed to be in the league in their present facilities.
As for his jibes at our financial dealings - even some of our own fans have had a genuine curiosity at some of our dealings over the years.
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| Saddened's posts are just trolling in the main, dressed up as somebody pretending to be our friend. Him being a Saints fan is irrelevant. The current financial footing of each and every club is not wholly in the public domain, and it's just guess work of how severe the issues from Covid19 affects each and every one. Lenegan has made a statement to Wigan supporters, looking for help to address what may well be a crisis, and other chairmen may follow suit. We'll just have to wait and see what comes to pass in the wake of this pandemic. As a collective, the future for SL is at best, rather uncertain. How uncertain, well, that is just guess work and conjecture.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I think you are just going at Saddened because he's a Saints fan - what he says isn't exactly recent news, with regards to Cas and Wakey. Both are financially 2nd or 3rd tier. It's an embarrassment for our league that they are still allowed to be in the league in their present facilities.
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They have managed to field competitive teams despite having a 2nd or 3rd tier budget. If you look at Castleford's recruitment and squad management over the period that Daryl Powell has been there and compare it to ours with presumably a 1st tier budget and modern facilities, the embarassment is on us
Anyway you may get your wish over the next few years as the aftermath of covid and the post-Brexit recession will likely push a few clubs to the wall and we may need to take a hard look at having a consolidation of the league with fewer clubs if the sport is to continue, and merged 'franchises'. But at some point that conversation might come to Warrington as well and ask is RL really viable in a town like Warrington without constant funding being pumped in by an owner. We don't have a huge stadium but it's not as though we have filled it and I wonder what the ceiling is for a club like us.
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| Sally, you can say that about all clubs and not just in our sport?
How many football clubs are self sufficient and not reliant on a sugar daddy pumping cash in?
By the way, I don't disagree on Cas doing very well on the field - However, rules clearly stated they should have been kicked out of the league unless they got a new ground, or updated Wheldon Road... that a club in 2020 is still playing in such a poor facility is an embarrassment for the sport as a whole.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "is RL really viable in a town like Warrington without constant funding being pumped in by an owner. We don't have a huge stadium but it's not as though we have filled it and I wonder what the ceiling is for a club like us.'"
Aside from a very generous owner what Warrington does have in its favour is that the town continues to grow in size. It’s no small task to turn people into RL fans but at least it is in our hands and we are not constrained by demography.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Sally, you can say that about all clubs and not just in our sport?
How many football clubs are self sufficient and not reliant on a sugar daddy pumping cash in?
By the way, I don't disagree on Cas doing very well on the field - However, rules clearly stated they should have been kicked out of the league unless they got a new ground, or updated Wheldon Road... that a club in 2020 is still playing in such a poor facility is an embarrassment for the sport as a whole.'"
With regard to stadia, it's not been a lack of effort from those clubs to try and get their projects off the ground. We were fortunate to have ours built prior to the economic difficulties that led to the austerity measures, and councils being less able to provide backing. Also, Warrington BC were very much on board, whereas their counterparts in Wakefield have been far less helpful.
Yes, things have not moved on with the stadia for Wakefield or Castleford, and it's difficult to see them being built given the current issues. Not all venues are great, and you can include Toronto (and London before them in SL), which is something we'll have to live with presently.
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| [*] Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "With regard to stadia, it's not been a lack of effort from those clubs to try and get their projects off the ground. We were fortunate to have ours built prior to the economic difficulties that led to the austerity measures, and councils being less able to provide backing. Also, Warrington BC were very much on board, whereas their counterparts in Wakefield have been far less helpful.
Yes, things have not moved on with the stadia for Wakefield or Castleford, and it's difficult to see them being built given the current issues. Not all venues are great, and you can include Toronto (and London before them in SL), which is something we'll have to live with presently.'"
No point setting rules then if you aren't going to instill them. It just shows how poor those running the game are.
We may as well ignore the salary cap rules and when the league try to pull us up, then we just point to their inability to run the comp by other rules?
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "[*]No point setting rules then if you aren't going to instill them. It just shows how poor those running the game are.
We may as well ignore the salary cap rules and when the league try to pull us up, then we just point to their inability to run the comp by other rules?'"
I'm not defending the RFL or SLE, whichever made the standard criteria for SL venues, back in the day. It's academic now as this part of SL qualification has been dropped some while ago, if my memory is correct, but the salary cap rules still apply.
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