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Quote: sally cinnamon "I like the selection of Solomona there lefty, I considered it myself. Thought he didn't merit inclusion on the grounds of overall contribution, compared to guys like Burns or Harrison, but if you pick a team loaded with stars, Solomona would cause carnage.

As for the pooh house, presumably Gleeson, he's down the list for me. He was good, and had an excellent first season, but if you take his other three and a half seasons I thought he was in second gear for us. Sometimes good, but a contributor to the general later Cullen era malaise that when the chips were down, some senior players didn't do enough to turn things around, they just let things drift. I got the impression with Gleeson, that he felt he was better than us, and he should have been still playing in that dominant Saints team with his old mates but was with us as a punishment for getting involved in the betting saga. He just seemed aloof and disengaged. You never got that feeling with Bateman, who would have also been justified in thinking he could have done better than some of the Wire teams he played in.

Also even if you just take contribution on the field, I don't think its clear cut that Gleeson was ahead of say Bridge, King, Kohe-Love, Atkins. Gleeson had a more reliable 'floor' to his standards and had a wider skill set than those guys, although he wasn't as quick. Those guys had longer spells with us and had times when injury or lack of form affected them but they didn't coast in second gear like Gleeson did. If you took the peak 4 year spell from any of those guys and compared it against Gleeson's spell I would take them.'"


I reckon you have picked the wrong guy. Andy Gregory is the guy he means, I think

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "I reckon you have picked the wrong guy. Andy Gregory is the guy he means, I think'"

Is the correct answer. Well done DSM.

For me, Gleeson was a good guy. No poohhousedness from me.
Smith gave an ultimatum to all our players when he came. If you want out, off you go (I heard a few stories about his behaviour at the time. A good move for all concerned)
He went. We got (iirc) £150,000 + Mathers
Mathers got a CC winners medal
Gleeson got a GF winners medal. Everyone's happy.
(Some) Wire fans showed themselves up, when he went to Hull, a year or so later. They booed him, mercilessly, at the HJ, yet Carvell wasn't by the Hull fans. Rather embarrassing.
Gregory A engineered his move away, and even went on strike, despite a 2@ing off Boyd (if the stories are to be believed)

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I like the selection of Solomona there lefty, I considered it myself. Thought he didn't merit inclusion on the grounds of overall contribution, compared to guys like Burns or Harrison, but if you pick a team loaded with stars, Solomona would cause carnage.

As for the pooh house, presumably Gleeson, he's down the list for me. He was good, and had an excellent first season, but if you take his other three and a half seasons I thought he was in second gear for us. Sometimes good, but a contributor to the general later Cullen era malaise that when the chips were down, some senior players didn't do enough to turn things around, they just let things drift. I got the impression with Gleeson, that he felt he was better than us, and he should have been still playing in that dominant Saints team with his old mates but was with us as a punishment for getting involved in the betting saga. He just seemed aloof and disengaged. You never got that feeling with Bateman, who would have also been justified in thinking he could have done better than some of the Wire teams he played in.

Also even if you just take contribution on the field, I don't think its clear cut that Gleeson was ahead of say Bridge, King, Kohe-Love, Atkins. Gleeson had a more reliable 'floor' to his standards and had a wider skill set than those guys, although he wasn't as quick. Those guys had longer spells with us and had times when injury or lack of form affected them but they didn't coast in second gear like Gleeson did. If you took the peak 4 year spell from any of those guys and compared it against Gleeson's spell I would take them.'"


I put Solamona in, for sheer entertainment value. As good a ball handling forward I've seen in the P&B. There's enough "grunt" and workload in my team to afford what can be classed as luxury.

I do take your point about Gleeson. I too think his heart was never really here, BUT, he was absolute quality. You could tell from the players around him, that he was a cut above them.
On another day, I'd swap him for Bateman's bench spot, but hey-ho.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "1. Brett Hodgson
2. Chris Hicks
3. Allan Bateman
4. Jonathan Davis
5. John Bevan
6. Lee Briers
7. Andy Gregory
8. Les Boyd
9. Daryl Clarke
10. Adrian Morley
11. Bob Eccles
12. Ben Westwood
13. Tommy Martin

14. Michael Monaghan
15. Chris Hill
16. Mike Gregory
17. Mike Nicholas'"

The same 17 but I would have Tommy Martyn in the second row, Mike Gregory at loose and Eccles at sub

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Quote: Captain Hook "The same 17 but I would have Tommy Martyn in the second row, Mike Gregory at loose and Eccles at sub'"


Your obviously a good judge Captain ha ha (I never spotted it) but that team and to be fair quite a few other line ups on here would be worth the admission money and wouldn't lose many although if the same criteria was used by other clubs then their teams might take some stopping??

I did consider putting Parry Gordon at 7 but thought it's not a popularity contest so stuck with Gregory A and I also had a thought for having Solomona on the bench al a Monsieur Goldblatt

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "
Gregory A engineered his move away, and even went on strike, despite a 2@ing off Boyd (if the stories are to be believed)'"


Big call here, but Gregory's departure to Wigan, for me, was the difference between Wigan, and not us, becoming the power of the late 80's, early 90's.

Gregory was the final piece in the Wigan jigsaw. We had more or less completed our jigsaw until Gregory smashed it to pieces.

That Wire side of November/December 1986 was the best RL club side I've ever seen. The 13 try demolition of Leeds at Headingley was the most complete RL performance I have ever witnessed (well, apart from Paul Bishop's lousy kicking!).

Gregory's departure left arguably the biggest what if in our history. The sight of him running the game behind THAT pack was probably perfect RL.

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Big call here, but Gregory's departure to Wigan, for me, was the difference between Wigan, and not us, becoming the power of the late 80's, early 90's.

Gregory was the final piece in the Wigan jigsaw. We had more or less completed our jigsaw until Gregory smashed it to pieces.

That Wire side of November/December 1986 was the best RL club side I've ever seen. The 13 try demolition of Leeds at Headingley was the most complete RL performance I have ever witnessed (well, apart from Paul Bishop's lousy kicking!).

Gregory's departure left arguably the biggest what if in our history. The sight of him running the game behind THAT pack was probably perfect RL.'"


Good shout I collared Gregory at a Sportsman's Dinner not that long after he'd hung up his boots and said as much. He said that his departure wasn't as simple as we all thought....yeah yadder yadder yadder

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Very difficult to do.may throw in a reserve team.so many characters that were a joy to watch and there was never a dull moment..

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Big call here, but Gregory's departure to Wigan, for me, was the difference between Wigan, and not us, becoming the power of the late 80's, early 90's.

Gregory was the final piece in the Wigan jigsaw. We had more or less completed our jigsaw until Gregory smashed it to pieces.

That Wire side of November/December 1986 was the best RL club side I've ever seen. The 13 try demolition of Leeds at Headingley was the most complete RL performance I have ever witnessed (well, apart from Paul Bishop's lousy kicking!).

Gregory's departure left arguably the biggest what if in our history. The sight of him running the game behind THAT pack was probably perfect RL.'"

Again, hard to disagree with a word of that, DSM
THAT game was one of the few (localish) away games I missed, that year. I remember the Radio Leeds commentator (obviously a Yarkshiremon) describing it as the "finest British team performance in any sport, that I've ever seen".
Luckily, I have seen the full game on video, and one word sums it up....pornography. We'd've given the touring Australians a game, that day (they were touring at the time, AMAZINGLY, we didn't get a game, despite us winning the Prem, a few months before)

That Gregory (A) partnership with Roberts was a joy to behold. Great days

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Again, hard to disagree with a word of that, DSM
THAT game was one of the few (localish) away games I missed, that year. I remember the Radio Leeds commentator (obviously a Yarkshiremon) describing it as the "finest British team performance in any sport, that I've ever seen".
Luckily, I have seen the full game on video, and one word sums it up....pornography. We'd've given the touring Australians a game, that day (they were touring at the time, AMAZINGLY, we didn't get a game, despite us winning the Prem, a few months before)

That Gregory (A) partnership with Roberts was a joy to behold. Great days'"

Anywhere I could see that Leeds match? A bit of joy wouldn’t go amiss!

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Your obviously a good judge Captain ha ha (I never spotted it) but that team and to be fair quite a few other line ups on here would be worth the admission money and wouldn't lose many although if the same criteria was used by other clubs then their teams might take some stopping??

I did consider putting Parry Gordon at 7 but thought it's not a popularity contest so stuck with Gregory A and I also had a thought for having Solomona on the bench al a Monsieur Goldblatt'"

This is getting a bit spooky, exactly my thoughts on Parry Gordon, up there as one of my favourite ever players, nothing flashy but totally dedicated to the team, don’t think I ever saw him give a less than 8/10 performance.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Anywhere I could see that Leeds match? A bit of joy wouldn’t go amiss!'"

I'm sure the tries are available on YouTube, CH.
Brendan (Douglas????) has some videos on Facebook (although I could be wrong)

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Quote: Captain Hook "Anywhere I could see that Leeds match? A bit of joy wouldn’t go amiss!'"


It's on You Tube mate. I watched it last week, a bit grainy but Roberts is still just as quick as we remembered.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Again, hard to disagree with a word of that, DSM
THAT game was one of the few (localish) away games I missed, that year. I remember the Radio Leeds commentator (obviously a Yarkshiremon) describing it as the "finest British team performance in any sport, that I've ever seen".
Luckily, I have seen the full game on video, and one word sums it up....pornography. We'd've given the touring Australians a game, that day (they were touring at the time, AMAZINGLY, we didn't get a game, despite us winning the Prem, a few months before)

That Gregory (A) partnership with Roberts was a joy to behold. Great days'"


The overriding memory from that match was that by the fifth or sixth try, the Leeds fans were openly applauding the quality of Wire's play. Mind you, by the ninth or tenth it had also been joined by calls for their coaches' head, which, if I recall correctly they got a couple of days later.

That short period at the end of 1986 was sheer RL heaven. I seem to remember us ripping a few good sides apart. Unfortunately, Gregory leaving killed us, despite a short cameo from a veteran Ken Kelly (someone who doesn't get mentioned enough in these 'best of' threads).

Can you imagine if we had kept Gregory, and added Woods and Drummond, as we later did?... That would have been beyond a dream.

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Although he wasn't in gregorys class, losing Keith Holden to a career ending injury at such a young age hurt as well. He looked to be forming an excellent partnership with woods. Those 2 playing behind our pack would've given Wigan a run for their money in the late 80s.

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