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I do think that the majority of the blame lies with Bennett and particularly the squad selection, but to allude that players like Widdop should be absolved of any part of this shambles because they are only doing what they've been asked to do is way off the mark.

There were some senior guys out there but no leaders when things didn't go according to plan and it was just like watching us on our bad days last year and we all know how many of them we had.

From a Wire perspective Philbin and Clark were positives for me and bizarrely Austin came out with some credit errors yes but also effort. Hill and Hughes as expected distinctly average. Widdop well I'm relieved like Shiny that at least his combination with Austin isn't already in tatters

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The whole team have been poor, doesn't change how good Widdop or Austin are. I can't wait to see them together next year icon_smile.gif

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Playing behind 2nd best pack.
Hence why it's of high urgency we buy a prop...well 2 because Hill and Cooper spent so much of it out of the squad last season.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "I do think that the majority of the blame lies with Bennett and particularly the squad selection, but to allude that players like Widdop should be absolved of any part of this shambles because they are only doing what they've been asked to do is way off the mark.

There were some senior guys out there but no leaders when things didn't go according to plan and it was just like watching us on our bad days last year and we all know how many of them we had.

From a Wire perspective Philbin and Clark were positives for me and bizarrely Austin came out with some credit errors yes but also effort. Hill and Hughes as expected distinctly average. Widdop well I'm relieved like Shiny that at least his combination with Austin isn't already in tatters'"


Summed it up very well there Rico. I would agree I think it would unfair to be to critical of Widdop, it would be far better to judge him after 10 games of the Super league Season alongside Austin.

There are a lot of players in 12 months time that won’t be called into the England Squad. It’s fair to say the experiment of Austin, Hastings and Coote(Scotland anyway) hasn’t exactly worked out so I will be surprised if they are selected again especially under an English coach like Wane. The likes of Hall and Mcgilivary(Form), Graham, Hill, Lockers(Age) and S.Burgess(retired) we could see a very different young fresher England side.

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The current man of steel has also looked terrible on this tour. I doubt Wigan fans are worried about what he can bring to their side next season. Super league is probably at its worst standard since it's inception, players like widdop can still shine in it when they're out of form.

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Pretty much all the players have been useless on this tour... Something was wrong the whole squad over.

Widdop will prove to be a great signing.

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Indeed. I doubt st helens are worried about Thompson being a non-tackling metre crunching show pony with back acne!! Its only this tour that has shown that.

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We've just had an insight in to what Widdop looks like in a mediocre and uninspiring side, which isn't able to impose itself on its opponents.

If we were hoping that Widdop was going to be the guy with background at the top of the NRL, to reignite an average GB side, we were disappointed.

This doesn't mean he is a bad player but he might not be a player who is going to have a transformational impact on an otherwise pedestrian side. How he looks playing for GB might be a better predictor of how he will look for us than watching clips of him playing in St George Illawarra's best days.

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You can always play Widdy at fb, and Ratchy int halves. eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Cokey "You can always play Widdy at fb, and Ratchy int halves.
Think we might also keep Charnley & Lineham on the wings & Austin in the halves.

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This doesn't mean he is a bad player but he might not be a player who is going to have a transformational impact on an otherwise pedestrian side. How he looks playing for GB might be a better predictor of how he will look for us than watching clips of him playing in St George Illawarra's best days.'"


We've just had an insight into how Hastings MOS would have looked in the second half of the season at Warrington. I don't what the answer is to our problems, but I hope Price has worked it out.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "We've just had an insight in to what Widdop looks like in a mediocre and uninspiring side, which isn't able to impose itself on its opponents.

If we were hoping that Widdop was going to be the guy with background at the top of the NRL, to reignite an average GB side, we were disappointed.

This doesn't mean he is a bad player but he might not be a player who is going to have a transformational impact on an otherwise pedestrian side. How he looks playing for GB might be a better predictor of how he will look for us than watching clips of him playing in St George Illawarra's best days.'"

He’ll be playing for a higher quality SL side than he was an NRL side (in relation to how both sides are in their own league) and when he was fit last season he had some brilliant performances.

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