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Quote: Maco7 "Can't argue with any of this. Matty Ashton who we have signed is absolutely rapid, whether he gets in ahead of Lineham i'm not so sure but he looks a real talent albeit from highlight clips I've seen. Is Keanan Brand quick? I wouldn't know.

Our halves are no slouches either, Austin once through a gap is quick and Widdop isn't slow.'"


Ashton will get a game in front of Lineham every now and then, Lineham spent half the season injured or banned.

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It stands out a mile, and that’s why the opposition will take risks in our 20 to score, because they know if it breaks down we havnt got the pace to hurt them icon_biggrin.gif

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I think we are alright for pace, charnley, Clark, mamo are all quick. Currie used to be very fast too. We have pace to hurt teams but 5 drives and a kick doesn't tend to cause many problems, especially when it's the only thing you ask of an opposition defence. I would say we have been the easiest team in the league to prepare to play against this season. With our resources and players that's absolutely shocking.

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Quote: CW8 "I think we are alright for pace, charnley, Clark, mamo are all quick. Currie used to be very fast too. We have pace to hurt teams but 5 drives and a kick doesn't tend to cause many problems, especially when it's the only thing you ask of an opposition defence. I would say we have been the easiest team in the league to prepare to play against this season. With our resources and players that's absolutely shocking.'"


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pace?

a few years ago (might be a bit more than a few), Rhys Williams measured the 5th fastest 100m in SL and the fastest at the club.

We certainly have alot more pace in the team now, than we did a few years ago.

pace isnt the problem..... its the forwards and the way we play.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "pace?

a few years ago (might be a bit more than a few), Rhys Williams measured the 5th fastest 100m in SL and the fastest at the club.

We certainly have alot more pace in the team now, than we did a few years ago.

pace isnt the problem..... its the forwards and the way we play.'"


Exactly wingers not scoring has nothing to do with their pace but kore to do with our second row and centre partnership not really doing much to create space a d doubt in the defence to get them through. Most of their trys come from a kick or the cut out pass missing out the centre second row.

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Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "Exactly wingers not scoring has nothing to do with their pace but kore to do with our second row and centre partnership not really doing much to create space a d doubt in the defence to get them through. Most of their trys come from a kick or the cut out pass missing out the centre second row.'"


I don't think the centres have seen enough ball to be blamed either though.

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Quote: CW8 "I don't think the centres have seen enough ball to be blamed either though.'"


That's what I'm eluding to there's no real attacking threat from second row to wing its all very one dimensional. And reliant to the half's or ratch to make the pass.

I'd like to see faster hands with the second rower making the pass to the winger with the centre making a dummy run or some kind of combination variation of that it's not revolutionary or somthing new. If we have currie and Hughes then it's somthing I would expect us to be doing were sacraficing size for what gain?

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Unless something radical is done about this year's debacle (CC excepted) , the most glaring deficiency will be poor season ticket sales for next year. How a so called top club & players can just expect wage paying supporters just to "suck it up" & put up with lack of effort & commitment is beyond me. I too can turn up for the same chosen games as the team.

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Quote: ninearches "Unless something radical is done about this year's debacle (CC excepted) , the most glaring deficiency will be poor season ticket sales for next year. How a so called top club & players can just expect wage paying supporters just to "suck it up" & put up with lack of effort & commitment is beyond me. I too can turn up for the same chosen games as the team.'"

Not quite, they may have selected different gams to you, or even to each other.

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Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners. I think of the likes of Rob Burrows who could run in two circles pulling in defenders and then away through a gap that was created before offloading to support to finish off.
Gelling has also partly alluded to this in his comments that Austin needs to step up in that sort of running role icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Superblue "Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners. I think of the likes of Rob Burrows who could run in two circles pulling in defenders and then away through a gap that was created before offloading to support to finish off.
Gelling has also partly alluded to this in his comments that Austin needs to step up in that sort of running role
Again though there is no point in out players backup running. We don't play an offload game. It really just takes 1 who can back up the players who make breaks
We have 2 of the best in the league with Clark and Austin. Myler was a brilliant support runner, didn't have much else to his game but a brilliant support player none the less.

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Quote: Superblue "Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners'"


searing pace
elusive runners

that stuff only really existed back when the players drank 15 pints after a game.

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I'm no expert on RL tactics but it seems that a lot of our passes are so flat that the receiving players have no time to do anything before they are tackled. Compare that to other sides, particularly the top 3, who have deeper runners who have time to receive the ball, sidestep, run at gaps, or simply just pass outside a split second before being tackled, by which time they have dragged defenders out of position leaving space for their team mates.

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Quote: TF and the wire "I'm no expert on RL tactics but it seems that a lot of our passes are so flat that the receiving players have no time to do anything before they are tackled. Compare that to other sides, particularly the top 3, who have deeper runners who have time to receive the ball, sidestep, run at gaps, or simply just pass outside a split second before being tackled, by which time they have dragged defenders out of position leaving space for their team mates.'"


the main tactic in RL is to draw as much attention as you can, into the middle of the pitch, then spread it quickly to talented athletes.

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