Fair enough. I do think you'll develop a much different opinion on King over the next few years. We'll see!

I joined this board as a friendly type but with the option to offer my opinion as an outsider! I will keep doing so with my RL hat on with no malice and hope you’ll take it in the spirit it’s intended

we don't have a starting 13 as such as we use an extra prop there rather than a traditional loose forward.

As the great Murph always said...1,7,9 and 13....Vital! Currently I see the 13 is a big issue for Warrington

As a thought regarding a ball playing loose forward.. Put brown there..then you can 4 forwards on the bench and if needs be move brown in the halves...

Livett got his chance last year when Currie got injured again, and played really well which earned him a new deal. Currie came back and livett went out unfortunately, currie is very average this year and Livett would do no worse. And i don't accept the coming back from injury excuse anymore, i did at first but he's played more than enough games to be fully fit and know his knee is holding up fine. Which is why i'm happy Livett is going to KR as he can get some much needed game time and show what he can do. Same with Johnson he gets to show what he can do and hopefully force his way in to the team

I always skip over AS108's posts as they carry no weight and are just there to try and wind people up.

I do have respect for fans of other clubs who come on here and argue a reasoned case - even if I don't agree with it - but arguing with someone in kindergarten is a waste of time.

we had a out an out LF in westerman...think our pack will be fine soon as currie get back to near his best...livett needs game time and isn't the best defensively hence why he hasnt featured much under price...

Yet another thread derailed, just ignore the childish posts trying to turn all reasoned discussion to be all about St Helens.

Back on topic,
I wish Harvey well at HKR, and hope that he takes the opportunity to get to the level of performance I believe he's capable of.

Al, he was too slow prior to his injury, so it would be a no from me. I could only see him play when we have an injury to either Patton or Austin, should he ever be fit to play, himself.

Thread tidied up, but I'd just like to highlight this, ignore them and they'll bugger off.

Thanks FMC.