When in a hole stop digging

Theres worse things in life done then someone saying something he's brought up to believe with his religion.
Not something to be posted on social media but theres much worse things going on in life.
Shown the post to my sister and her wife and they both weren't bothered, it's a comment religion bounces around alot and doesn't affect them. So i think it's a very strong reaction to just fire him and de-register him straight away with no warnings or work shops etc
But on the other hand i do applaud the NRL for taking a strong stance and sending a message that it's not to be tolerated.

That it, not a valid response,if you don’t agree with ninearches post that’s your right and my original post is fact as you are proving.But if you want to get picky what gives you the right to call anyone uneducated.

I'd say it would be harsh if it's his 1st offence but it's the 3rd time.

People have a right to their religious beliefs but he defends his homophobia by quoting bible passages. It'd be such a horrendous message if Super League was his salvation (pun intended).

As for the bible: Leviticus 19:28 ”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.” If you're going to take it literally, don't pick and choose the parts you want in order to defend views that need to be left in the past.

Mr Folau has voiced his opinion ,not mine ....i have gay friends ,family & acquaintances & have a live & let live attitude to my life & the lives of everyone else.
Mr Folau has offended people with his comments . Is it not possible that he is equally offended by the views ,opinions & actions of the people he has criticised ? Is it his religious beliefs that have prompted him to speak out ? If so ,who are we to criticise his religion ?

To be fair your right, I apologise!!

With hindsight “ Ignorant “ was a better word that uneducated albeit I Suspect I wasn’t far from the mark with my original observation.

I defend his right to his religious views. I defend his right to say them on social media.

That's what free speech is. Will he be going to prison? No.

I also defend Rugby Australia's right to terminate his employment as a private company.

I, personally, wouldn't want a homophone, racist etc. playing for the club I love.

He is free to say whatever he wants for the rest of his life. Whether a company wants to employ him or not is up to them.

I didn't realise it was the 3rd time he's done this, i thought it was his first post and Boom he's fired.
Yeah i don't agree with hiding behind religion but some have it ingrained in them from a kid, not an excuse as he's an adult but some people never open their eyes to another view.

Very baffling as to why he needed to spout his religious beliefs on social media when surely he must have known the end consequences especially in this day and age and I for one being gay myself would never go and watch my team ever again if they employed any player with his views.Just my opinion.

I’m not gay , equally I am not religious, I have no political allegiances or agendas. I am a father of 4 living in 2019 bringing my children up to respect others .

I have views on many things in life but I don’t seek to impose them on others.

Respect is a simple but understetimated quality.

I am surprised that my original post on this matter caused such a stir. It was meant to just ponder the issue of a player getting sacked for ill judged remarks that were offensive to some members of society. I too had no knowledge of it being his 3rd strike on the matter when i asked about his possible return to RL.
At least we know this forum is all inclusive .

I think a little context is required, from ALL parts of society.

Folau. Terminally stupid. Not once, not twice, but THREE times. If he has these beliefs, then that's HIS affair. If he's stupid enough to air these views in public, in this day and age, where some people are "queueing up" to be offended, then he's just underlined his stupidity. Folau, is like a lot of other "social media users"..... an attention seeker. He's certainly done that, and it's (more than likely), going to cost him his livelihood. Plonker.

Religion. Deary me. People live their lives through this!
I know people who'll be sat in a pew, in a couple of hours time, and they're some of the most two faced, hypocritical Muppets, you' ll ever see. Just because they prey, they think they're absolved of all their "nasty" deeds. Deluded.
Personally, I think it's nice to have a faith/belief (I don't practice, though), but RELIGION? Just look at the state of the planet. Across the Irish Sea, and even more stupidly, those whoppers who "support" Rangers and Celtic, are acting it out by proxy, in a different country. Fools. Nothing good comes of religion.


Touching on Folau's recent WHOLE quote. He also condemns (as well as homosexuals, this is the crux of his potential banning)
a) drunks. Last night was a Saturday. I dare say a good proportion of the planet had "a bit too much to drink". Nowt down for them.
b) adulterers. So that's Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, Tiger Woods and the fella who plays Ken Barlow, etc, going "downstairs", then.
c) Athiests. An ever growing number
d) Liars. That's most of the planet, then
e) Fornicators... Ooh err, Missus
f) Theives. Well, they deserve it
In Israel's eyes, Hell is going to need to expand bigger than Warrington's Green Belt land, as its going to get pretty busy, down there.

I have no truck with homosexuals, or any of the other traits which Folau wants to cast into the fire pit. If you're a decent person, I'll probably like you. Live and let live.
As I said, context is all that's needed. An attention seeking plonker, has "tweeted" (shudders) some nasty words. Now what would you sooner have done to you. A few lazy, stupid insults aimed at you, or maybe being shot, beaten up, or even Les Boyd (who is worshipped on here by some, me included) breaking your jaw, or gouging your eyes. I know which one I prefer.

Let Folau vent his spleen. He just makes himself look stupid. Hopefully, he'll go away. However, with a "pitchfork" sensationalist media, they're giving him the oxygen he craves. Will we (society) ever learn?

While I think they will follow the NRL’s lead, Super League/The RFL haven’t the best record of a hard line stance on homophobia. If memory serves, Mr Hardaker has a homophobia offence on his ever growing list of misdemeanours, and got 4/5 games I think. This was for a direct verbal attack on a match official. I think a post on a personal social media account is lower down the offence list than that.

If Folau makes a case to come to SL, I’d be interested to see what the Governing Body made of it, bearing in mind his celebrity and obvious class.

If you are going to brand someone you've never met as 'uneducated', you might want to check your grammar first.