Soon as I heard that "trained well" I thought - blimey things must be bad for that to be wheeled out. It's usually followed by a "we are hurting", then a "this is not a time for quitting", then the eventual exit.

Are the Wigan fans in a bitter division on their forum of what do to for the best ? Or are they happy with a transition year?

Really? e.g.) You would sell your children? You would give up on Dec?

He'd have to improve on them as they are now to make them poop!

Make me an offer.

You missed out "I can take some positives out of this", or you'd've had a full house.

Can’t be a massive shock that it is a “transition” year? An appointment of a 1 year coach, loss of 2 of their most influential players (Tomkins and Bateman) and a revolution in their coaching staff given the time and influence Wane had.
As for a Sjolskaer type appointment, wasn’t that exactly what Lam was meant to be?

Lam wasn't associated with a great era of success in the way that Solskjaer was, he was just a good ex player from a less successful time. The equivalent would have been United appointing Van Nistelrooy as manager - he'd have been respected but it wouldn't have had the same feel.

Obviously the Messiah is signed up for next year...or is he?

I think Edwards will back out....and he'll be a very naughty boy