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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Would be interesting to see how effective £16k is in terms of buying extra SL points - I wonder how many wins that got them.
Could it have been the difference between us and Wigan in the Grand Final I wonder?'"
Considering it relates to 2017 when Wigan finished outside the play off spots, then no.
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| So it does pay to cheat then.
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| Quote: warriorweed "Considering it relates to 2017 when Wigan finished outside the play off spots, then no.'" ....considering the penalties are enforced (with everyone else) the season following in 2018...then yes. It helped Wigan by getting home advantage in the semi final vs Cas by getting home advantage in the S8 vs Cas...!
Had those 2 points came off when the should have...I've a argument to say Cas may have beaten Wigan then in the S8 and then again in the semifinal.
Setting up a Wire vs Cas final.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Solicitors letters for SL, if someone else is relegated as a result of this.
2006, Fielden, a record transfer and subsequent salary cap failure?'"
Which ultimately sent Cas down.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "....considering the penalties are enforced (with everyone else) the season following in 2018...then yes. It helped Wigan by getting home advantage in the semi final vs Cas by getting home advantage in the S8 vs Cas...!
Had those 2 points came off when the should have...I've a argument to say Cas may have beaten Wigan then in the S8 and then again in the semifinal.
Setting up a Wire vs Cas final.'"
Wigan finished 5 points clear of Cas didn’t they? So I don’t think it would have made a bit of difference.
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| Quote: Alffi_7 "Wigan finished 5 points clear of Cas didn’t they? So I don’t think it would have made a bit of difference.'" ]
5 after the S8!... it's the regular season finish that deems how the S8 pan out to make a difference to the schedule of 7 games that gives the teams favourable ties. Wigan with home tie advantage over Cas and Wire ... 1 point above Cas at the end of the regular season.
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| Quote: warriorweed "Quote: warriorweed "Would be interesting to see how effective £16k is in terms of buying extra SL points - I wonder how many wins that got them.
Could it have been the difference between us and Wigan in the Grand Final I wonder?'"
Considering it relates to 2017 when Wigan finished outside the play off spots, then no.'"
2017 ,didn't Wigan just scrape into the 8 in front of Wire who finished up in the zone of death ? Not that we deserved to finish any higher than 9th ,we were poor in Smith's last season.
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| I havent seen the full transcript for this latest 'error' by Wigan. IF this transgression meant they spent over the cap and could be seen as deliberately hiding something then it should result in points deduction, but if it didn't then it really isnt that big a deal. We cant make it bigger than it is just because its Wigan. Had it been Wakey or Salford making a small error within the cap nobody would care
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| Quote: Lost in Leeds "I havent seen the full transcript for this latest 'error' by Wigan. IF this transgression meant they spent over the cap and could be seen as deliberately hiding something then it should result in points deduction, but if it didn't then it really isnt that big a deal. We cant make it bigger than it is just because its Wigan. Had it been Wakey or Salford making a small error within the cap nobody would care'"
Do you think Salford or wakey would have got away with it...
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| Quote: sir adrian morley "Do you think Salford or wakey would have got away with it...'"
I would hope so yes
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| Quote: sir adrian morley "Cheats do prosper..should we do it and would we get away with it.'"
The whole system reeks. Said this since October when ratboy committed two dubious fouls in the final and continued to play. Perhaps we wouldn’t have had the guile to win against 12-man Wigan, but still the fact he ended up copping a ban proves he shouldn’t have stayed on the pitch, and we never got to find out either way.
But hey ho. It’s wigan. And it was only wire who lost out to the Shaun Wane fairytale ending. So who cares?
An unrelated gripe, but it shows that it’s fookin epidemic in our game. Untouchable scrotes.
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| Quote: ninearches "2017 ,didn't Wigan just scrape into the 8 in front of Wire who finished up in the zone of death ? Not that we deserved to finish any higher than 9th ,we were poor in Smith's last season.'" yes...but to add those points wouldn't have been enfored in 2017...they should have been deducted in 2018 but they got the suspended pending an enquiry.
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| Now, I'm not thick (though I do blow my cover, sometimes), but I don't understand this.
I assume, like the disciplinary committee on a Tuesday evening, there is a [itariff sheet [/i held by the RFL/SL to "dish out" certain punishments, when salary cap limits have been transgressed.
On this occasion, whether it's fraud on a massive scale, or office errors, Wigan have clearly broken the rules, so they should be punished. Again, I assume, that Wigan's level of transgression was equal to a two point deduction, when viewed against the [itarrif sheet. [/i They were found guilty. Wigan appealed. The deduction was suspended, but the guilt is there. It has to be. Otherwise, Wigan appeal again, to have the charge changed to not guilty-no case to answer, as they don't want their "good name" (stop sing at the back) besmirched.
So. Why have the RFL/SL just tore up their own charge sheet, and let Wigan get away with it, AGAIN? After all. It's not as if they have a clean record, in all things salary cap.
Simple. The RFL/SL are pooh scared of Wigan. Always have been, always wii be.
It's like that old phrase. We are all equal. Only some are more equal than others.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Would be interesting to see how effective £16k is in terms of buying extra SL points - I wonder how many wins that got them.
Could it have been the difference between us and Wigan in the Grand Final I wonder?'" If it had been to players it would have been £10 a week extra in their pay packets, I read somewhere
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Now, I'm not thick (though I do blow my cover, sometimes), but I don't understand this.
I assume, like the disciplinary committee on a Tuesday evening, there is a [itariff sheet [/i held by the RFL/SL to "dish out" certain punishments, when salary cap limits have been transgressed.
On this occasion, whether it's fraud on a massive scale, or office errors, Wigan have clearly broken the rules, so they should be punished. Again, I assume, that Wigan's level of transgression was equal to a two point deduction, when viewed against the [itarrif sheet. [/i They were found guilty. Wigan appealed. The deduction was suspended, but the guilt is there. It has to be. Otherwise, Wigan appeal again, to have the charge changed to not guilty-no case to answer, as they don't want their "good name" (stop sing at the back) besmirched.
So. Why have the RFL/SL just tore up their own charge sheet, and let Wigan get away with it, AGAIN? After all. It's not as if they have a clean record, in all things salary cap.
Simple. The RFL/SL are pooh scared of Wigan. Always have been, always wii be.
It's like that old phrase. We are all equal. Only some are more equal than others.'"
Maybe. We may also be a big enough club to escape the sort of censure that would fall on Wakefield or Cas.
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