I understand your point and comparisons, I would counter that SOL is a far better individual player than those you state. He will be rightly remembered as a legend of the Northern hemisphere game - in the way Peacock is.

Of course he is passed his best but he still had the vision to split our defence for the last try in the GF by switching play. What he would bring off field would be of great benefit too and he would be a far more effective captain than Hill.

Shows how low our game has sunk that SOL is considered a LEGEND! Very good player yes but not fit to lace Farrell or Sculthorpes boots. I dont think hes injured either....he got the hook from Bennett due to three consecutive errors led to a try. Cant be a legend (in a forward capacity) if your tackling technique has been consistently suspect at best. Wildly overrated IMO.

SOL is a legend.
He is up there with the near modern day best.
Farrell Sculthorpe and not out of place with Gregory and Pendlebury.

Yep understood. If Peacock is a legend, then SOL must be.

He has been wildly overrated by a lot of coaches Raper, Mike Greg, Betts, Millward, Noble, Maguire, Wane and now Lam.

Don't forget Smith...he loved him! Not saying he can't be rated highly...just IMO he's thought of a bit too highly. Farrell was a much better player. As an aside in his last 3 games he's been absolutely abysmal but he went on to win a GF and represent his country....so legend he is.

I agree with this entirely. In my opinion a very over rated player, who is a good grafter and captain, but that's it. Has got away with more offences at the disciplinary tribunals than any other player I can remember.

I won't bang on as I'm not saying SOL has made a career out of being getting a favourable deal from commentators. However, if we look at last Saturday after his poor kick it was treated as 'unlucky right idea' by the commentators, twenty seconds later his lazy penalty was ignored....as was 40 seconds later when their centre waltzed through a gap he'd left wide open. Now imagine another player had made those errors - theyd be caned in the commentary box and on the internet yet for him....nothing!

He's been a very good player not sure about legend status, it's probably a bit overused like world class IMO. However, if Wigan fans think he's a legend then that's their business as it would be ours when judging one of our own?

Would I have him at Wire next year? Not for me he's definitely on the wane, it happens to all players, but his excellence is based on being a pivotal force and I'm not convinced he's got that in him (cue a GF winning performance 2019 GRRR!!!)

I would not consider sol in the same division as A Farrell but he has definitely been a standout player, genuinely think his body is shot and has been very carefully managed by Wane over the last couple of seasons. Don't think there is enough left for me to want to sign him for next season. But then I wondered why we signed B Hodgson!

Played 26 games this season excluding internationals. The same as Murdoch-Masila.

I'm in the same boat aswell, i don't get and have never understood the hype around him to be honest. He's just a better than average player that consistantly plays at that level. Good squad player though and clearly well thought of, he's just not for me.

I was quite happy with BMM for a first season, I'm expecting more next year although to be fair he's not a legend

From what I'm told he was never interviewed as he turned down our approach.

Not sure if this is a good point or not? No question that in a number of the games he played BMM was far from fit.

On topic, I think next season is very difficult to call eg Saints, lost Barba but should have Walmesley back, and a couple of interesting signings from Oz. We have another new halfback, but look like we need another one as well. Leeds have a re build in progress, that could go either way. Wigan, new (short term) coach, lost some important players, currently I think they will struggle but I presume there are some signings to come. So too early for any prediction from me... I'm just off to remove the splinters from my backside.