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Quote: Judder Man "Don’t think Atkins is available is he..........Barba turned up for training this morning and found him in his pocket.'"


Yep, Barba woke up half way through the match, saw a team that were running on empty and decided to give a cameo performance, he IS the Messiah.
Ps did he use to bunk off tackling lessons?

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Quote: Captain Hook "Yep, Barba woke up half way through the match, saw a team that were running on empty and decided to give a cameo performance, he IS the Messiah.
Ps did he use to bunk off tackling lessons?'"


Give over he would walk into our team, superb player.

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Quote: Wires71 "Give over he would walk into our team, superb player.'"

Not on recent performances. I wouldn't drop Ratchford for him anyways.

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Quote: Wires71 "Give over he would walk into our team, superb player.'"

He is undoubtedly a great player, but he has been missing in action for at least the last 8 games. His own fans were calling him not fit to burn. I defy you to say my assessment of Saturday's display is in anyway inaccurate. As for his tackling ability, it is non existent.

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Quote: Wires71 "Give over he would walk into our team, superb player.'"


Yes, but having previosly turned out for "that" team, hes tarnished.

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According to the dream team full back site, of the 4 suggestions Barba has made 99 tackles this season, the next lowest is Gigot with 191, then Ratchford 214 and Tomkins 233

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Quote: rubber duckie "Not on recent performances. I wouldn't drop Ratchford for him anyways.'"

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With Tomkins going to Catalans I wonder if they fancy giving us Gigot in exchange for the utility hindrance Ratchford?

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the full details are on the rfl site now for linehams case, little bit confusing as they appear to be mixed up in which set of laws he's been charged under, it states that its applying pressure to neck or spinal region to harm or slow the ball player down, he didn't do anything like that following the tackle did he?

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Quote: Captain Hook "He is undoubtedly a great player, but he has been missing in action for at least the last 8 games. His own fans were calling him not fit to burn. I defy you to say my assessment of Saturday's display is in anyway inaccurate. As for his tackling ability, it is non existent.'"


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I defy you deny he would walk into our team. Plenty of dull boring players that can tackle, the game needs flair.

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My post was specifically about Saturday’s performance. Tell me which bit was inaccurate. I pointed out he had been ineffective for the previous 8 weeks or so, care to point out where I was wrong about that?
I agree when at his best he has X factor, and if he performed at that level consistently I would want him in my team.

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Quote: Captain Hook "My post was specifically about Saturday’s performance. Tell me which bit was inaccurate. I pointed out he had been ineffective for the previous 8 weeks or so, care to point out where I was wrong about that?
I agree when at his best he has X factor, and if he performed at that level consistently I would want him in my team.'"



Your original quote did not mention 8 weeks.

"Yep, Barba woke up half way through the match, saw a team that were running on empty and decided to give a cameo performance, he IS the Messiah.
Ps did he use to bunk off tackling lessons?"

Anyway even his coach accepts his performance was below par form round 16 for 10 rounds and said so in the post match interview.

I think in the Warrington game he had more effect when the opposition tired. Not sure this is a cameo or not or whether he was holding himself back.

We can compare to Ratchford however who had no effect at anytime of the match (or was holding it back like Barba)

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Quote: Wires71 "Your original quote did not mention 8 weeks.

"Yep, Barba woke up half way through the match, saw a team that were running on empty and decided to give a cameo performance, he IS the Messiah.
Ps did he use to bunk off tackling lessons?"

Anyway even his coach accepts his performance was below par form round 16 for 10 rounds and said so in the post match interview.

I think in the Warrington game he had more effect when the opposition tired. Not sure this is a cameo or not or whether he was holding himself back.

We can compare to Ratchford however who had no effect at anytime of the match (or was holding it back like Barba)'"

I’m not sure that you actually disagree with anything I said. I’m not aware that anyone said Ratchford played a blinder on Saturday, but given the disruption to our team perhaps not surprising.
Finally can the defensive role of a full back really be totally ignored in the modern game?

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Quote: Captain Hook "I’m not sure that you actually disagree with anything I said. I’m not aware that anyone said Ratchford played a blinder on Saturday, but given the disruption to our team perhaps not surprising.
Finally can the defensive role of a full back really be totally ignored in the modern game?'"


I think we do agree. But I think a lot of the judgements of Barba are coloured by jealousy/sour grapes by some.

Can the defensive ability be overlooked? Well Barba plays full back for Saints and they finished top of the tree in the league, favourites for GF and the second meanest defence in the league at 408 against in 29 games (14 points per game). So his defensive frailties seem to have had no detriment to them.

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I think the Saints lack of points against says more about the lack of a cutting edge in the other teams. Look at the half back combinations in the top 4, us (nuff said) Wigan Powell and thingy, you know ther homegrown marquee, and Cas have been missing Gale.
I’m still not giving up on the semi final though!

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