Burgundy shoes? Goodness me where do you get your fashion tips from, Coco the clown?

No questions from me about his choice of attire.
I hope he wears them again in front of the sky cameras vs Stains. TS has nailed down a philosophy that luck plays a very important role in the playing ethic here!
[Whistles]

I bet if he joined Warrington he would have had the 2017 Christmas Calendar above the mantlepiece.

This was the infamous 'done deal' slant from RD.

Its rumoured that this was one of the driving reasons behind board misgivings over TS.
There has been talks with a few players and alleged gone pearshaped after TS chats.

Yes without a doubt its all about results & performances. As TS always said if we get the performances right then the results will follow.

This season I like every other Wire I want trophies, but being realistic thats probably a bridge too far. If we finish top 4 & give a good account of ourselves in the cup then most fans will accept that. Our best chance of success is the cup but thats dependent on the draw, although in 2016 didn't Hull beat Saints, Cas & Catalans to reach the final ?.

If tonights game is on I think its very important in terms of confidence for the rest of our season that we get a result. At the end of last season I was speaking to Kurt Gidley and he said by game 6 of our losing streak the players confidence had gone and once a players confidence was gone it affected every aspect of their game. We've had a mini revival beating Widnes & Wigan & if we get a result tonight I think it will do wonders for our season. I 100% know tonights game is just 2 points in a long season but to our team it could be much more than that.

I'm with you FB.
If we don't make an account against a busted Dull team and carbon copy Huddersfield.....we can forget winning anything this season.

Why on earth are you expecting us to win anything this season? You don't go from finishing to outside the 8 one year to winning the next, not with our squad anyway.

Leeds did

With our squad?

Leeds the serial SL GF winners cannot be compared with a team that have not won it in 60 years with a crap squad.

Someone needs to tell him this is Super League, not the NR ####ING L.

5 drives and a kick. Dull.

Where in my quote did I say that?

I said a good account of ourselves.
Anyways...give your head a wobble. Leeds did it.

I wish you would stop telling me to give my head a wobble because you are unable to read to the end of a sentence. Leed's would not have won the league with our squad.

You said "you can forget about winning anything this season".

Top 4 is very unlikely. Which of these teams do you think we will finish above: Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Hull, Cas, Wakefield?

Also this business about the players "losing confidence" after a bad run is something we hear a lot at Warrington and it sums up the absence of leadership and mental toughness that hangs round Warrington but not the successful teams. Leeds have won plenty of Grand Finals after having bad patches in seasons, pretty much every year the Leeds forum is full of people calling for change, McDermott out NOW etc. It has also happened to Wigan too a couple of times, where they were hit by injuries and bad form and had to throw in Academy players.

At those clubs, they can weather a bad run and turn things around and win, but Warrington and Warrington players always seem to lack resilience. It was going on back in the Cullen era - we'd get knocked out of the Challenge Cup and then lose the next few games and Cullen would say the Cup result "absolutely knocked the stuffing out of us". How often do you hear the story of a young player at Warrington who got dropped and then it "knocked his confidence", and he ends up disappearing. This doesn't seem to happen to Leeds and Wigan players?

Anyway we are at 2 wins from 5 and next week is Saints so if we lose there it will be 2 from 6. Is there any point watching the rest of the season or are we going to hear all year that those first early results really affected the players and they could never recover. We heard all that positive stuff about the army camp in pre-season and how it was great for building mental toughness, but 24 hours in the freezing rain running up hills with no food is probably easy street compared to being out on a rugby field when you're on a losing run, getting beaten again and booed off at half-time and then ship in more tries in the second half and a chorus of boos and heckles rings round the terraces.

Bang on this. Mental toughness. For some of the players it may be too late to instill that. Smith had an excuse culture and that is ingrained.

As an interesting aside Wigan were 16 - 4 down against Widnes yesterday at halftime. They won the 2nd half 28-0. We couldn't do that.

As for us, I was expecting 3/6 but it looks like 2. League position 6-9 still looks likely.