As I come from Newton it was always Wigan as the enemy. I wasn't even sure where Widnes was (I'm still not totally sure, and I've been there a few times), first time they registered with me was that fateful day at Wembley in '75.

I’m sorry but I can’t take interest in a tin pot town that doesn’t know what it is. A Warrington postcode, a Liverpool dialling code and in Cheshire? It’s the place that no one gives two hoots about. Misfit town.

Back to the question Wigan and Saints games mean more to me.

Wigan first then Sts and then Leeds, the rest are well, the rest! Those three games I expect a level of performance that is well above any other game, if we win then great if we don't, it hurts.

Having watched Wire for over 55 years, I can honestly say, neither myself or all the lads I used to go with, view the Widnes game as anything special. Wigan has always been the main fixture. I don't view Widnes with any more importance than Salford or Huddersfield, never have.

I also find it interesting and disappointing that the Widnes 'derby' seems of lesser interest to the Widnes public, too. Whilst there are a few fanatics on their own board ( they love calling Wire ' the scum' ) the derby match is clearly not such a big deal. Generally if one side in a derby fixture goes through a long period of little success compared to their rival, then the 'smaller' club's fans cling to the derby as the one way they can claim bragging rights and inflict a little damage on their stronger opponent. Clearly not happening at Widnes v Wire games.

Its more about the decline of widnes than anything else. They were never really a well supported club when they had Davies offiah etc and we're breaking Wigans league dominance. ..even back then our biggest game was wigan....

Come on where else would you wish to be on new years day .....!!

Yes sally is right Wigans biggest game is Saints.. but Wigan and saints have a larger boundary where the two fan bases can overlap and it creates that better banter between fans.... wire and widnes don't have that boundary apart from a row of houses at cuerdley cross....and the two sets of fans genuinely don't like each other.

Let's not forget every time a big over seas signing joins Wigan the same line is always rolled out...."ive been told if we have to win one game all year is got to be saints ".....

Yes that would be nice to see.... lost 28 won 2

It matters not one jot to me that a Wigan fan might come on this board and churn out that point of irrelevance towards us.

Its still the best game on the calendar for me. ....always has been..

Apart from that year they were in the second division...obviously

I've never 'forgiven' Widnes for ruining my day out in '75 and the sight of an army peroxide haired harridans dressed head to toe in black and white crimplene complete with over-sized crocheted rosettes will stay with me forever. I don't care what the respective league positions are I will never tire of us beating Widnes.

However, as far as BIG games are concerned Wigan for me is a bigger game if that isn't contradictory? Despite the 'hoodoo' I've never had a complete downer on St Helens

I have never got over Offiah scoring 5 tries against Dessie. Dessie made up for it when he battered that Widnes fan who ran on the pitch one Easter.

If you went to school where I did, and plenty of your peer group supported Widnes despite living in Warrington, probably cos Widnes were pretty bloody good at the time, you'd never tire of seeing Wire smash the Demics. My favourite game ever is that John Player semi where we annihilated them, Xmas 1986. Happy days.

Every coach that we passed or passed on the way back was full of them. I think they were the prototype for the Minions in Despicable Me complete with deranged cackle.

My day was 'topped off' by having to witness Widnes parade the trophy round Euston Station whilst waiting for the midnight train back to Bank Quay...AGHHH!!! A LONG LONG DAY