Get Phil Chadwick on them, beasting them round Vicky Park or Loushers Lane on a cold Tuesday night under 2 flood lights.

Exactly right. That was the missing ingredient from Smith’s teams at Warrington and probably the difference between two wins against Wigan in Grand Finals and our two defeats.

I’d also hazard a guess that the players had become too comfortable under Smith for such a camp to have the necessary impact to make the desired difference.

For Price I’m sure the dilemma must have been the timing of the “beasting session”. He obviously wanted to test the players in that environment as early as possible in the pre-season to create the bonds between the players and for him to see how the individuals react and to understand the character of his squad.

Unfortunately due to internationals returning late after the world cup it has meant that senior squad members missed the session and let’s be honest it is those players you’d be looking to be the leaders when times get tough and it’s these players who have fallen short in that respect previously.

As it is Price made the call to run the session without those players as he must have decided all things considered that was the right time. He will no doubt have all the squad together for the skills camp at a dedicated sports complex in January.

.....no problem!
Send a full squad back again!!

Why didn’t they run up the 3rd hill? Is Price going soft already?

Price seems to me to be doing everything right so far from the press we are hearing and the players reactions. He's quickly identified the cultural and mindset change required. Like you say I bet he has identified the skills shortfall too and will address this.

I did wonder if the captaincy would change from Hill too, I don't see him in that role personally but let's see.

I too have wondered about whether we could do with a passionate motivator as Captain a la Andy Farrell. I’ve got the utmost respect for Hill but when the chips are down in a Gramd Final and we’ve just gone behind with minutes to go I’d prefer someone who could stoke fire in the bellies of the players.

On press day it looked like Ratchford was sat in the usual captains position in the team photo I saw.

Easy solution is to make Hill club captain and Roberts team captain.
Hill has the call on trophy pick up.
Or is that just too easy?

Well I'd go with that.
Ratch team captain and Hill club captain.

I don’t think Price has seen enough of Ratchford to know whether he is the Captain yet. They’ve only just returned to training. If I had to guess I’d say it’s Hill in Price’s thoughts until we near the start of the season and then maybe he’ll lump for someone he thinks might add a bit more towards the resilience he’s craving for. Ratchford is a good communicator with a good rugby brain but I’m not sure he’s a leader of men. He didn’t look commanding when in the halves in the big games. Currie is probably on the cards for the future though with his history. Wonder if Clark has the right stuff?

These pre season camps make me smile, whether they're in 30C temperatures in The Canaries, slapping on the Ambre Solaire, or some bleak Welsh mountain range, having a 200l drum of freezing cold rain water, tipped over you, as some kind of forfeit for losing a team building session.
Gimmicky cobblers.

Have players working on technique. Championship winning players are dedicated. They work on their game constantly. Train hard, win hard. Ellery Hanley didn't need to go to the Brecon Beacons to be the best of his generation. He didn't urinate his career up the wall. Dedication. Practice. Training. That makes a sportsman. Not pratting around on a Krypton Factor style assault course,

A leader of men would help, too.
Whether they're international greats, Boyd or Morley, or localish lads Cullen(as a player) or Gregory. They commanded respect and got it. Blow as much smoke up Hill's bottom as you want, he's not a leader of men.

It might be seen as a gimmick but it’s a good way of initiating players into this new regime - a sort of kick up the backside. It may not affect players skill-wise but it does draw a line under the previous technique of espressos on the balcony before a run up the beach in Tenerife. Price is setting his stall out and saying “with me you’ll work hard and work together for each other - no easy ride. If you don’t buy into my resilience philosophies I’ll find other players who will”. Ryan Atkins talks about it here: https://youtu.be/8CIuAEWAZY8 I’m impressed with Price’s approach on things performance-wise. Let’s hope he’s as good a tactician as Smith was and we could see a good couple of years from this team.

It might be seen as a gimmick but it’s a good way of initiating players into this new regime - a sort of kick up the backside. It may not affect players skill-wise but it does draw a line under the previous technique of espressos on the balcony before a run up the beach in Tenerife. Price is setting his stall out and saying “with me you’ll work hard and work together for each other - no easy ride. If you don’t buy into my resilience philosophies I’ll find other players who will”. Ryan Atkins talks about it here: https://youtu.be/8CIuAEWAZY8 I’m impressed with Price’s approach on things performance-wise. Let’s hope he’s as good a tactician as Smith was and we could see a good couple of years from this team.

Very welcoming.

Melbourne Storm must have done something similar. The army camp training was one of the first things that Michael Maguire organised for the team when he came to Wigan in 2010.

I don't blame Psycho if he turned down an invite to this preseason bonding.