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Quote: Snaggletooth "What I was meaning was, some fans (friends and foe) construe that we have lost our SL status, whilst no Championship supporters claim to playing at a SL level.

To me we started in SL and only if we lose in the MP game do we lose SL status.'"


I fully agree with your sentiment Snaggletooth, but, also with the previous poster that if some of our current opposition aren't in it, are we?

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The BBC explained it with the help of Korean Billy on the Superleague show.

"The top 8 teams in superleague will become a separate competition with all their accumulated points brought forward. This is still called Super league."

"The bottom 4 teams from Super League will join the top 4 teams from the championship in a new league called the Qualifiers. all points accumulated throughout the season are put back to 0 and they will fight it out for super league status.


Though we may not have been relegated into the championship, we are still currently playing in a lower league. the Qualifiers is sort of like Limbo. It's not super league and its not Championship. its somewhere in-between the both. We can cling onto it all we want that we've never played in the championship but the fact will always remain that for 7 weeks we played outside the Super league.

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And if we were to lose the million pound game, and thus be relegated, but the RFL change the rules to bring a club up instead of relegating one ?

Was we relegated?

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Maybe I have my P&B glasses on but I see it this way. Regardless of two league splitting into 3, the top league is a playoff competition to win the GF. The Qualifiers is a competition to either gain or retain Superleague status. If we retain Superleague status then we do not get relegated so our record isn't broken.

If we do consider the Qualifiers as a 'lower league' then we must also class the times we have finished outside of the playoff places as playing outside of the elite competition. The Superleague after the split are, in essence, the playoffs of old. The Qualifiers after the split is just a means to decide who is relegated. If we do not get relegated then we retain our record.

Simples....

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As of yet we have not been relegated. Were we to get relegated and retain SL status due to moving to 13 teams then i would certainly consider our record gone. As it is IMO our record remains in tact. Put it this way if Leeds win the GF this season then how did they manage that after getting 'relegated' last season?

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Quote: WWRLFC78 "

If we do consider the Qualifiers as a 'lower league' then we must also class the times we have finished outside of the playoff places as playing outside of the elite competition. The Superleague after the split are, in essence, the playoffs of old. The Qualifiers after the split is just a means to decide who is relegated. If we do not get relegated then we retain our record.

Simples....'"


Finishing outside of the playoff places never meant you played in a separate league against lower league teams so I don't think that is comparable. Like it or not we are in a distinct separate league called "The Qualifiers".
The leagues are distinguished as separate on the official SL website here www.rugby-league.com/superleague/fixtures
Superleague is sponsored by BetFred, the Qualifiers league is not.
Quote: WWRLFC78 "

If we do consider the Qualifiers as a 'lower league' then we must also class the times we have finished outside of the playoff places as playing outside of the elite competition. The Superleague after the split are, in essence, the playoffs of old. The Qualifiers after the split is just a means to decide who is relegated. If we do not get relegated then we retain our record.

Simples....'"


Finishing outside of the playoff places never meant you played in a separate league against lower league teams so I don't think that is comparable. Like it or not we are in a distinct separate league called "The Qualifiers".
The leagues are distinguished as separate on the official SL website here www.rugby-league.com/superleague/fixtures
Superleague is sponsored by BetFred, the Qualifiers league is not.


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What we definitely no longer have is the record of playing in every weekly round of super league since it started icon_sad.gif

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Quote: ratticusfinch "As of yet we have not been relegated. Were we to get relegated and retain SL status due to moving to 13 teams then i would certainly consider our record gone. As it is IMO our record remains in tact. Put it this way if Leeds win the GF this season then how did they manage that after getting 'relegated' last season?'"


Have we not been 'relegated' to a lower competition - The Qualifiers from which we can "qualify" for promotion to Super League?

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Quote: Wires71 "Have we not been 'relegated' to a lower competition - The Qualifiers from which we can "qualify" for promotion to Super League?'"


I consider us qualifying for a lower competition. If we meet certain criteria such as coming in the top 3 or winning the 4/5th Million Pound game we will remain in the Super League. If we lose the million pound game or god forbid don't even qualify then we will have been relegated to the next lowest league.

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interesting question....it surely has to come down to 'relegation' and how that is defined. We have yet to be relegated...so we still retain our top flight status....just as the Championship teams have not been promoted into Super League...we have not been relegated from it. A sort of limbo as someone else has already said.

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Quote: Oxford Exile "interesting question....it surely has to come down to 'relegation' and how that is defined. We have yet to be relegated...so we still retain our top flight status....just as the Championship teams have not been promoted into Super League...we have not been relegated from it. A sort of limbo as someone else has already said.'"


More Purgatory or Perdition than Limbo

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Quote: moving on... "The top 8 are currently in a competition called 'Superleague'

The middle 8 are currently in a separate competition called 'The Qualifiers'


Though we may not have been relegated from the championship we are most certainly playing outside the top league. the difference with the old play off system was that though you finished outside the top 8 and your season was over... You weren't then put into another mini league and made to play. Now we are.'"


It is actually being referred to as Super League Qualifiers

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Does it really matter what names they give these two 8's ? If the RFL had split us up into top and bottom 6 teams at this stage, would anybody on here be bothered ? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its a duck. If a Championship side this year enters SL next year, they have been promoted. If we were to play in the Championship next year we would have been relegated.

How on earth can we find this such a fascinating topic. Anybody want to see my list of car number plates that I spotted this morning ?

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "Does it really matter what names they give these two 8's ? If the RFL had split us up into top and bottom 6 teams at this stage, would anybody on here be bothered ? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its a duck. If a Championship side this year enters SL next year, they have been promoted. If we were to play in the Championship next year we would have been relegated.

How on earth can we find this such a fascinating topic. Anybody want to see my list of car number plates that I spotted this morning ?'"


Yes please, never see any ED anymore except the mayors car.

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Quote: karetaker "Yes please, never see any ED anymore except the mayors car.'"


Slight thread drift, but, deserving, I remember someone writing 'Now the Wire' on my dads Vauxhall Viva AED....in the sand that had accumulated on the bodywork whilst stuck on a beach car park in Cornwall 1972.

Sad, but, kind of gave us both a warm glow......350 miles from home, but, not 'alone'.

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