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| It's not enough it will be spent on retaining players rather than bringing players in
Should be closer to 3/3.5m to have an impact on the quality of players we can realistically attract
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| Quote: Wirefan "Stupid cap increase. Does absolutely nothing to stave off the threat from RU or NRL and jointly absolutely nothing to help entice players from either sport to Superleague. We'll just ending spending the extra cap on the Matty Russell's / Ryan Atkins of this world.'"
It's a step in the right direction though, that has to be positive?
It could mean they George Williams can stay in the SL, it may mean we can keep Clark & Currie happy here in SL, the previous set up wouldn't have allowed that.
I agree it is more a tool for established players to remain in SL, rather than to attract NRL talent, but again, isn't that positive?
Hopefully player retention means we can keep good players here, which can support a better TV contract next time around, so we can look to tweak again.
A big increase now would be a) completely unsustainable and b) create havoc in the player transfer market.
Slow and steady is the way forward.
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| Bit sceptical about this, you see the mess of a squad we have put together on the existing cap, not confident at all that will change under this new cap arrangement, feel it may just be spent on retaining players rather than bringing in better. Jury is out
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| Quote: Superblue "Bit sceptical about this, you see the mess of a squad we have put together on the existing cap, not confident at all that will change under this new cap arrangement, feel it may just be spent on retaining players rather than bringing in better. Jury is out'"
But that's the main reason for these new measures being put in place, to keep players in SL and try and help the player drain to RU / NRL.
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| Quote: Builth Wells Wire "I can't see the bit where he didn't accept it'"
So by not, not accepting it he must have accepted it.......right!!
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| Quote: Builth Wells Wire "I can't see the bit where he didn't accept it'"
...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?
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| Quote: Alffi_7 "But that's the main reason for these new measures being put in place, to keep players in SL and try and help the player drain to RU / NRL.'"
Which is a starting point and a noble cause given the small pool of talent that the sport is operating with. It isn't in itself a panacea for the sport's ills we need to generate interest and attract more participants to our sport as we will not be competing financially with RU or the NRL anytime soon
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| Quote: rubber duckie "...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?'"
Whoa it's no like you to be dramatic
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| Quote: rubber duckie "...and you can't see a dead body but that labels me a murderer?'"
I'm sure Ian Brady said that. Or was it 2Pac
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Which is a starting point and a noble cause given the small pool of talent that the sport is operating with. It isn't in itself a panacea for the sport's ills we need to generate interest and attract more participants to our sport as we will not be competing financially with RU or the NRL anytime soon'"
Absolutely, if we didn't put something in place it would reduce the quality of the competition and there simply isn't enough money in the game presently to support a greater cap increase.
We need to consolidate our current position then push for a bigger tv contract from 2021.
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| Quote: Alffi_7 "But that's the main reason for these new measures being put in place, to keep players in SL and try and help the player drain to RU / NRL.'"
I know, but I just think clubs will,spend the extra cap throughout the squad to keep who they have, make sure they are left with a squad.
And as for a second marquee player, how many clubs have even one marquee player?
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Whoa it's no like you to be dramatic'"
Dramatic is a good word.
A bit of extreme shock can often get results with unruly characters.
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| Quote: Alffi_7 "Absolutely, if we didn't put something in place it would reduce the quality of the competition and there simply isn't enough money in the game presently to support a greater cap increase.
We need to consolidate our current position then push for a bigger tv contract from 2021.'"
It's a fair argument that the cap is also what is holding back investors who will pour money into the game however don't want to be told they can only spend 2m on players wages. There's a fine balance and if this increase was 5/6 years ago it would have had much more of an impact than it would do now. It's a plaster where stitches are needed
We have stated that the quality in SL is as low as many can remember but we're happy to eneble us to keep the same pool in SL ??
I think that the Rfl need to be waving the tv rights to BT and play hardball with sky over getting more money
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| I think people get over worked up about losing players to the NRL.
It's not the end of the world if British players find their way over to the best competition and if we had an England team of which 10 or so were leading players in the NRL it would make for a much more competitive international game.
I wonder if they have this stress in New Zealand about how many of their players play in Australia....should they be doing more to try and make NZ players stay in their national competition?
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| Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "It's a fair argument that the cap is also what is holding back investors who will pour money into the game however don't want to be told they can only spend 2m on players wages. There's a fine balance and if this increase was 5/6 years ago it would have had much more of an impact than it would do now. It's a plaster where stitches are needed
We have stated that the quality in SL is as low as many can remember but we're happy to eneble us to keep the same pool in SL ??
I think that the Rfl need to be waving the tv rights to BT and play hardball with sky over getting more money'"
Possibly, although there are hardly a line of investors telling us that. The investors at Toronto seem happy enough with the situation, maybe they like the fact the salary cap is quite low, as it means they can compete without spending to RU levels as they grow their business?
I'd agree that stitches are needed, but to keep the medical analogy going, you're not cured from your first antibiotic tablet, you need to finish the course. For me, this is a step in the right direction, the only way we can push the salary cap forward is to secure a greater TV contract.
Rightly or wrongly we have our current deal till 2021, hopefully this will allow us to keep, and potentially attract better players, to leave us in a better position for further cap growth in 2022 onwards.
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