Why do you think that Toronto has any sort of claim to start in the Championship, particularly if you believe that Bradford "need to start from scratch"?

Perhaps a more equitable solution would be to offer an open spot to the highest placed relegated team from last season, as it could be argued that their position was in part due to Bradford operating unfairly. If either of those teams felt unable to take up the offer then it should go to the highest none promoted Championship 1 team and if no one takes it up for whatever reason then it would be Bradford on level points then Toronto for me

From what I've read, the reason why Bradford will remain in the championship is because of the upheaval it will cause to rearrange fixtures at this late stage, especially Toronto's.

I can understand why it wouldn't (apart from shouldn't IMO) be workable for Toronto, but, to say to Whitehaven or Workington can you fulfil Bradford's fixtures it shouldn't be that difficult?

I understand that these arrangements take time and the off season might not be long enough to deal with matters fully and I whilst I feel sorry for the Bradford players, staff and supporters, as a sport with a month to go to the new season it should all be clear cut and I'm not sure that it is yet and according to the VT thread it could be as late as the 23rd January before details are confirmed.

This is complete madness unless the RFL and Bradford already have a plan which has to 'go through' certain channels but will be ratified in any event

Well whatever they are going to be it's going to be with less players, 3 of them have already signed for other teams,Salford have Welham Widnes have Olbison and Giants have taken a forward aswell.

Good old promotion and relegation hey!

Unfortunately it's not the first time that this has happened though?

My point about Toronto is that they already have a squad that could compete in the championship.

As I said Bradford being allowed into the championship is just scandalous, it furthers my belief that they have a squad lined up already and this whole thing is to just dump a load of debt and being aided by the rfl.

Well as I said earlier that some players have already moved to new clubs 4 in total so far I believe. I'm wondering what kind of squad they will have and how hard will it be for them to even stay up,other sports (RFU) must be laughing at the farce of this. Just read a 5th as now gone Clare to Leigh.

Yes and on their board the players are being called to odsal today at 4pm to meet new owner.

Speculation that they are not actually in liquidation as of yet as papers not yet submitted, all in all I think this is shambolic and is no different to what a lot of cowboy businesses do go bankrupt n start again under slightly different name to get rid of debt!! And have been aided by the rfl too!!

Should we prevent every team aspiring to get in the top league from doing so? Maybe Toronto Wolfpack will be happy with playing Whitehaven, Doncaster and Keighley for ever.

No. It's survival of the fittest.

Other sports have promotion and relegation and cope. The issue is that RL is ailing so badly that it cannot.

Because presumably Whitehaven and Workington and the rest will have already made their arrangements to travel to Canada, and Bradford obviously won't have done.

I doubt this is all insurmountable, and it sounds a bit like a convenient excuse to me, but I sort of see where they're coming from.

A quick director search shows that Marc Green is not fit to run a bath.

Considering Toronto are backed by a media mogul they could do the game a great deal of good in providing a rival to sky in the bidding war.
Rugby Union is trouncing RL in terms of tv coverage with games being available on sky & BT ,highlights on ITV & BBC for internationals. Getting another tv company interested could do wonders for our game.

Don't talk sense lol

It's not ideal WW but my point was trying to get the fairest most transparent way out of this unfortunate situation.

I don't think as a sport we can hang on till gone the 11th hour with a Bradford club that may or may not be in place and the other proposal that Toronto could be airlifted into the Championship well really? After all what would Whitehaven and Workington do when they turn up in Canada and nobody's home......visit Niagara Falls?