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Quote: Wires71 "Not sure it's a melt down, just people being honest about how they feel. It's a refreshing change from the "Im more of a fan than you" / "you're not a real fan" posturing we normally get. Maybe the powers that be in the game need to have a think about why fans of long standing are disenfranchised.'"

Would you have come on here posting all this had we won last Friday against Wigan?

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Quote: DAG "Would you have come on here posting all this had we won last Friday against Wigan?'"


In answer to your question, you see I didn't start the thread, I responded to it. So the timing is in response to the OP. I also did not mention the Wigan game in my posts. Also a clue was in my opening sentence "I went through something similar a few years back".

I've posted a few times about how dull I find the current game and how my interest has waned. I envy you if you still have the fire in the belly for all things Wire. Please don't be under the illusion that I somehow cannot stomach a single defeat of which, as you correctly state, there have been many worse in the past. I guess that in my fourth decade of watching it has all worn a bit thin, and, well priorities change - there are other things to do.

The others will need to reply on their timing.

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A good win or draw on Friday will soon put our demons to bed & the Wire will be mighty once more.

The whole game is suffering at the minute with excessive injuries & stop gaps are having to be made with youngsters who are not ready being shoe horned into most teams. The RFL though needs to look at ways of attracting future talent before it is too late & mediocrity sets in. Once that happens it will be too late for some clubs.

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I'm afraid it's part of growing up, not many retain the enthusiasm of youth. I'm still Wire to the core but there are more important things in life...was still totally gutted on Friday though.
I have to remind myself how poor we were last season to put it all into perspective..

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Quote: Wires71 "Good post. Funny how things change. When I was kid, throughout the 80's I'd be at all games home and away, all home A team games and even watch the first team train at Lousher's Lane and Victoria Park. As soon as the game had finished on Sunday I was looking forward to the next one. Wigan week was massive. Certain players were heroes to me, John Bevan, Jacko, Boyd, Eccles, Roberts even Hesford. It may be age but that devotion has gone. I just don't feel it like I used to, no matter how much hype there is and people saying how good a product it is. Last home game I went to was Huddersfield in the League - I was bored stiff.'"

I along with my mates would watch the players train on Loushers Lane a little earlier though we used to think we were Parry Gordon, Jackie Melling, and Brian Brady all rolled into one, like yourself that was our week waiting for the next game If I'm really honest I still do all be it there have been more downs than ups as you say that was part of following the Wire, but nothing like last Fridays feeling no words can explain it I'm only just coming round, so at least I must still care, nothing is going to change so hold my hands up to Wigan get back to reality see what players are available, to late for major change so I hope and believe Wire will put something together over the next couple of weeks.

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Quote: ricominciare "I along with my mates would watch the players train on Loushers Lane a little earlier though we used to think we were Parry Gordon, Jackie Melling, and Brian Brady all rolled into one, like yourself that was our week waiting for the next game If I'm really honest I still do all be it there have been more downs than ups as you say that was part of following the Wire, but nothing like last Fridays feeling no words can explain it I'm only just coming round, so at least I must still care, nothing is going to change so hold my hands up to Wigan get back to reality see what players are available, to late for major change so I hope and believe Wire will put something together over the next couple of weeks.'"



Good post. I can't quite put my finger on the feelings after Friday. In the past we could always rest on being plucky underdogs and be really proud of the performance (Wembley 1990, Premiership 1986 etc). Under early Smith 2009-2013 you could see something building and nice pots along the way underlined that. I guess I don't think anything is building any more. Worst of all you could see that loss to Wigan coming a MILE off.

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Come on get yourselves up for it.....(Graham Taylor )

Ive got.my season ticket for next year already.

with Wire doom and gloom is only ever temporary. ....sure it's always never far away, but fall out of love with the game. ...never...ever..ever. ...

If I ever feel bad about Rugby league I watch football. ..and It puts things into perspective. ...I'm a big liverpool fan but football is as dull as ditch water.....despite Roberto Firmino and his bleached whitened teeth.

And Lefty the NRL isn't as bad as people make out ....the rules need changing to encourage expansive rugby.
.Melbourne storm are dull. ....horrendously so. They grind out games I hate watching them. ...you simply wouldn't pay to watch cameron smith or cooper cronk. ... that's why canberra raiders need to win this weekend it will save The NRL.....

It won't happen the raiders will offload all over the park trying to play entertaining rugby and the storm will simply wait for errors or penalties take the two every time and simply strangle the life out of the game. ....

that's all that needs addressing. ....fatty vautin commented on a clip of the raiders free flowing rugby and said" it's like going back to the 80's." ....its not quite but it's definitely how the game should be played and needs to be played. ...

I don't go to away matches as it's unfair on my family to devote every weekend to rugby but I don't feel any less passionate than I did when I was 17....

Greatest game in the world ....We shouldn't run it down because we aren't winning ..

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Agree with your last sentence Flying Biscuit, Fridays game took some getting over perhaps because we were there with a realistic chance but I would rather be there than not.

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I'm absolutely alright with it now, in fact, it could be a blessing in disguise. Whether that be in the short term in regards to the Play-off semi final and Grand Final (if we get there) as they are the two most important games of the season where we might have gained a new found realisation and thus determination going into those games; or longer term with regards to the attitude and application of certain players or even the coach where the top brass have seen enough with regards to some of them or him, after last Friday.

In the grand scheme of things I thought that thread we had last week about the 'if Carlsberg did rugby league then beating Wigan at home to win the League Leaders Shield would be it' was a bit small-time in all honesty as we have another go at it next week anyway and the bigger games are still to come in October. Plus in no way did last Friday come anywhere near the disappointment of the 2013 Grand Final. I've still not got over that if I'm honest, whereas I was over Friday night by Saturday afternoon.

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Quote: fez1 "I must apologize to the Mods for my recent posts - every one containing at least one expletive - (or lots of .... ).

I've not been on here since Friday night and have seriously thought of giving up supporting the Wire and RL for good.
I was / am totally pig-sick.

I have been supporting Warrington since the early 1970's and I honestly cannot think of any time I've been as hacked off as I am / was after Friday.

I've seen them lose 80 - 0 at Stains
I've seen us lose with seconds to go against Stains
I saw us lose to the Joe Lydon 'wonder drop goal' in the 80's
I saw us lose to Wigan in CC final in the mid 90's and in the Regal Trophy that decade too.
I've seen us lose away at Hunslet in the 80's.
I've seen us get stuffed by Bradford and Leeds.
Even losing the 2 GF's was not as bad.
This list goes on.

In all of the above (except Hunslet!) we were never really the 'class' side or something conspired against us (particularly the goons injuring Monas and Ratch in the 2nd GF).

But I have honestly never taken defeat like that on Friday.

Totally livid. It's beyong 'upsetting'.

My long suffering wife was totally understanding though - that's the one saving grace.

Nor sure where I go from here.

I've decided not to make the 300 mile round trip to Hull on Friday and have still yet to decide whether to watch on tv.
Can't even persuade myself to see how things are going on the club web site or the Warrington Guardian.

Why, why, why ?
Try being a Wakey supporter mate. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "I'm absolutely alright with it now, in fact, it could be a blessing in disguise. Whether that be in the short term in regards to the Play-off semi final and Grand Final (if we get there) as they are the two most important games of the season where we might have gained a new found realisation and thus determination going into those games; or longer term with regards to the attitude and application of certain players or even the coach where the top brass have seen enough with regards to some of them or him, after last Friday.

In the grand scheme of things I thought that thread we had last week about the 'if Carlsberg did rugby league then beating Wigan at home to win the League Leaders Shield would be it' was a bit small-time in all honesty as we have another go at it next week anyway and the bigger games are still to come in October. Plus in no way did last Friday come anywhere near the disappointment of the 2013 Grand Final. I've still not got over that if I'm honest, whereas I was over Friday night by Saturday afternoon.'"

Please tell me, how long have you been involved in middle management.

I don't think I've ever read a bigger load of corporate BULL5H1T in my entire life.

Please tell me you have your tongue firmly in your cheek. I can't honestly tell, as I have a belly full of Wainwright's in me, and I need my bed.

Night, night folks

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Please tell me, how long have you been involved in middle management.

I don't think I've ever read a bigger load of corporate BULL5H1T in my entire life.

Please tell me you have your tongue firmly in your cheek. I can't honestly tell, as I have a belly full of Wainwright's in me, and I need my bed.

Night, night folks'"

I don't have my tongue in my cheek. Yeah last Friday was a bit embarrassing but what is it in the big picture?just one game in the season, that's all. The end to the game at HKR away was the same and people weren't banging on about that all week after. If we'd not ed up the end to that game we wouldn't have even needed a point against Wigan last friday as we'd already have won the LLS (which doesn't really mean much anyway).

I was sick for months after losing the 2013 GF and I've actually not felt the same about the sport since to be honest. I won't until we lift that trophy with the big 'S' on it. That was a total heart breaker, a proper sickener.

Last Friday wasn't, it wasn't anywhere near that!

We could have won last Friday - but with Currie and Westwood out, both halfbacks unfit, no wingers, a lack of pace and power in our props and a full back who turns up one week then may as well not have bothered turning up the week after (damning for the rest of the competition that a team with those shortcomings could have been in with a shout for all three trophies this season!) - and not won the GF and last Friday would have meant absolutely nowt! I would still not be happy because of 2013 because we haven't won the big one. Hubcap in the cabinet [meaning very little] or not.

Same goes for this week. If we win at Hull but don't lift the Super League trophy I will not particularly care a jot that we won the league ladder.

What last Friday could have done, like I say, is hit home with the board and made them think on about a few players/coaches/the coach. That could end up being a good thing.

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Monday, April 20th, 1981 will always be in my memory. All we needed was to beat Leigh & we would be the League winners.
Alas things fell apart & we lost to a Des Drummond try

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Psych,
The thing about the GF defeat was that outside influences (dirty tackling by the goons was tolerated by the officials) turned the match.
Friday was totally down to us.
That's what's really got to me. We turned victory to defeat. Not Wigan.

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Quote: fez1 "I must apologize to the Mods for my recent posts - every one containing at least one expletive - (or lots of .... ).

I've not been on here since Friday night and have seriously thought of giving up supporting the Wire and RL for good.
I was / am totally pig-sick.

I have been supporting Warrington since the early 1970's and I honestly cannot think of any time I've been as hacked off as I am / was after Friday.

I've seen them lose 80 - 0 at Stains
I've seen us lose with seconds to go against Stains
I saw us lose to the Joe Lydon 'wonder drop goal' in the 80's
I saw us lose to Wigan in CC final in the mid 90's and in the Regal Trophy that decade too.
I've seen us lose away at Hunslet in the 80's.
I've seen us get stuffed by Bradford and Leeds.
Even losing the 2 GF's was not as bad.
This list goes on.

In all of the above (except Hunslet!) we were never really the 'class' side or something conspired against us (particularly the goons injuring Monas and Ratch in the 2nd GF).

But I have honestly never taken defeat like that on Friday.

Totally livid. It's beyong 'upsetting'.

My long suffering wife was totally understanding though - that's the one saving grace.

Nor sure where I go from here.

I've decided not to make the 300 mile round trip to Hull on Friday and have still yet to decide whether to watch on tv.
Can't even persuade myself to see how things are going on the club web site or the Warrington Guardian.

Why, why, why ?
Still bitter towards Wigan. icon_lol.gif

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