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I'm happy with it.
I'm enjoying the new TS this season. Not rewarding mediocrity for a change.
Anything less than a model player, your dropped! I'd like to see TS extend it with form too, other than only ever picking on either Penny, Ormsby or Riley over the last 3 years when everyone with a hole up the jackstaff know who was really lacking.
So glad he's now one our better players this year by the way, but I don't put that down to sustained selection.

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Quote: Moving Forward "I personally would have put a contract on the table and said "win the Grand Final and its all yours". I suppose there's the problem that he might find a different club if that was the case but that's a risk I would be willing to take.'"


But had we not have won the grand final we would have been left without a coach in October for the following season, you can't run a club like that, and can't bring in a quality replacement at the drop of a hat.

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Very happy with it too. He did cop some flak last season and some of it justified but recruitment this season has been spot on with upgrades to half back and back row. There was a lot of criticism on here when he let Carvell go but injuries had caught up with him and he didn't make much of an impression after. Same with Joel Monaghan and there are 3 pages on the Cas forum where fans are not impressed. Chris Bridge missed half of last season due to injuries and much the same is now happening at Widnes. That is a lot of cap space freed up and credit where it is due.

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Quote: Oxford Exile ""what have the romans ever done for us eh?"'"


Gave us roads.

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It must be boring winning cups every year, i think i prefer our roller coaster ride.

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Happy with stability, Saints have changed their coach more regularly than a Widnes fan changes his underwear and it hasn't really been an improvement has it.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Happy with stability, Saints have changed their coach more regularly than a Widnes fan changes his underwear and it hasn't really been an improvement has it.'"



grand final year before last?

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Quote: ninearches "It must be boring winning cups every year, i think i prefer our roller coaster ride.'"

As I used to tell Wigan fans in the 80's, "any fool can support a winning team". What I thought, but didn't say "...but it takes a special sort of masochist to support the Wire..."

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "grand final year before last?'"

Judging by their forum even they accept that was a fluke, certainly their play has generally deteriorated.

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Best Coach in the League. Big things still to come.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Judging by their forum even they accept that was a fluke, certainly their play has generally deteriorated.'"



i'd loving love a fluke grand final.

Although arguably, had saints had some balls that year and picked us, we would have won the GF that year, i reckon.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Judging by their forum even they accept that was a fluke, certainly their play has generally deteriorated.'"


Yup, total fluke. Our play has deteriorated, but so have our players and both are causing the beef at the club at the moment.

Saints current senior players are arguably the worst we ever had in the last 30 years. Once Roby retires you could argue we don't have a single international quality player. Not sure how much of that is the fault of the coaches, but KC did sign Jack Owens and Dom Peyroux. d040.gif

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Quote: Saddened! "Yup, total fluke. Our play has deteriorated, but so have our players and both are causing the beef at the club at the moment.

Saints current senior players are arguably the worst we ever had in the last 30 years. Once Roby retires you could argue we don't have a single international quality player. Not sure how much of that is the fault of the coaches, but KC did sign Jack Owens and Dom Peyroux.
you've got a legendary coaching team though.

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I agree that even a fluke GF is better than none (or I assume it is!).

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I'm glad his contract is signed if it went on too long then speculation surrounding new coaches etc could have become a distraction and we don't need that whilst we are going quite well. I also think 2 years is the right length of contract, I'm glad that although this year it's looking rosy so far that last season hasn't been forgotten with a 5 year deal.

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