Penny's kick restart that lead to the drop out was great as well!

Gidleys knock on...glad that didn't bite us on the arris or i would have been fuming.

Tough kick to defend from Tomkins. I admire his confidence of having a go but I would have put it in the stand. In his defence, he's probably thinking of conserving energy for the team and trying to get the ball back.

The 2 Manfredi tries are superb edge play from Wigan, winger can't mark a winger with a centre in space.

Had a decent go, took his try well. Nothing to panic about

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I don't think he is good defensively but that isn't my major worry... its his lack of size. I was cringing slightly in the last 20 minutes when I knew we needed a good set of 6 and to get down wigans end and heis taking a hit up. He is just too lightweight in my opinion and gets absolutely dominated in the tackle. Regularly seems to get held up and dragged back 5 yards, completely putting us on the backfoot in the set of 6.

If you compare this to how good wingers get their teams set of 6 started e.g. Charnley, manfredi, Briscoes, Hall etc who have the strength to get on the front foot it is light and day and makes it so much easier for the forwards following.

He possibly has to be more brave in the tackle and not run so upright into contact, and look to hit the deck quickly by driving low. Not sure, he just seems to casually jog into the opposition defence anticipating getting held up.

The reason I started a topic was because I had read some comments slagging him off on another topic and felt it deserved responding to properly. I fail to see how you could've read anything negative in my post?

Get real man! Not interested in any response and am certainly not going to get into a debate on Penny, credit where it's due please! That's his first mistake in 4 or 5 games. Could have happened to anybody and he got up brushed himself down and made sure he didn't make another error.

I'll repeat just one more time that I wasn't slagging Kev off, as I never have. I hated how he was made a scapegoat by fans in his last spell and I was heartbroken when he left the club. I totally distance myself from the rubbish spouted by Ron a couple of posts back.

My point was that, 30m from your own line, you don't have to commit yourself even if you are outnumbered. The Wigan two were a debutant and Manfredi, so the ball was always going to go to Manfredi. If Penny marshals him, he doesn't score and tbe cover has a chance of getting to the centre (we had Currie and Atkins on that side, so plenty of pace).

What i saw last night was that Wigan were much better at creating overlaps than us which resulted in our outside defenders being isolated on quite a few occasions but luckily we managed to deal with most of the threats. Therein could be something we need to be able to cope with as a team rather than fans shouting for heads to roll.
Attack wise, if we had a more fluid attack like Wigan we would be scoring for fun.

I am a big supporter of KP but that was a horror show from him last night. He looked hesitant and unsure defensively.

You're doomed as a winger if your centre gets sucked in,do you gamble? Do you stand your ground? Split second decisions

Kev penny offers more in attack than defence and that's why the jury will always be out,it's a trade of,you can talk about him until the cows come home but we know what he is yet we still seem to recycle threads

Even Manfredi (best winger in the league apparently) is naive in defence but fearless when finishing

Overall Kev is a more rounded player and has and continues to improve and I for one would be made up for him if scores the winning try in GF or CC because of his journey in the game I think he deserves it more than most

If that was a horror show defensively by penny then we are going to this league and we'll be lucky to Concede a try between now and Christmas. ...

I despair the lad scored a worldy set up ratchford for a try and defused a blinding high bomb at full pace and with his back to the ball. ...

Top of the league and bagging players..... can we make song about that. ..

Not to mention the pin point kick off which got us the ball back.

Penny made one mistake, all players make mistakes, even Hill.

You do wonder what they do in training that made them think to give KP the kick off?!

Got to be able to change it up, remember George kings specials