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Also worth noting in the games he's actually played he's been hopeless. ...

It was never like getting a Ronnie Duane or a mark Roberts back from injury. ....

We gave Wheeler a one year contract to show what he could do ...he did what most expected. .get injured. ..

There is no shame or ruthlessness in letting him go... We have shafted many a seasoned pro in recent years we certainly don't have to show Wheeler any compassion. ....

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Can't get my head round Wheeler surely we would have been better to bring Ryan Shaw back who had a good year for Bradford and now signed for Hull K R can play centre, wing, fullback and can kick goals he wouldn't be first choice in the first team but could play reserves and a good back up in a long season I would have thought salary would be similar

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He would make a good programme seller. He wouldn't get injured doing that....

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Quote: Laughing Gravy "Glad to see you're all behind him'"


It's a bit of a two way situation though isn't it? The club and the supporters have backed plenty of players through periods of injury and rightly, or wrongly, it is usually based on the player actually contributing something to the team.

A player like Grix 'earned' our compassion through his exploits in the P&B, we certainly missed him last year. Wheeler on the other hand....I'm sorry to say I'm with the majority on here, he might be potentially a great player but he hasn't shown that here yet and I doubt he ever will.

We don't owe the lad anything and IMO certainly less than giving one of our own youngsters a chance to step up now and again and build their career

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Quote: Saddened! "You are in the same conundrum Saints faced with Wheeler. The coaching staff are no doubt seeing him train, seeing on a daily basis the natural talent he has and being drawn into believing they can get the best out of him. That combined with the fear that if you release him he'll show that potential at another club. It's amazing to think he's been given another chance at a top SL club. After so many years at Saints, then a continuation of the same issues at Warrington, he really has to realise it's now or never for his career.

Another possibility being discussed on the Saints forum is clubs picking up average players to flesh out the reserve side. We're rumoured to be signing half of Widnes's fringe players on sub-salary cap level (£20k/£30k?) for that purpose. Potentially Wheeler fits this, low wage, aim to play in the reserves and potentially push for first team and provide injury cover?'"

The reserve team filler makes sense, if it is to be a U23's would Wheeler be eligible as I'm not sure how old he is 25/26? or whether one or two over age players would be allowed to play after injury.

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Quote: BramleyWire "Can't get my head round Wheeler surely we would have been better to bring Ryan Shaw back who had a good year for Bradford and now signed for Hull K R can play centre, wing, fullback and can kick goals he wouldn't be first choice in the first team but could play reserves and a good back up in a long season I would have thought salary would be similar'"

Shaw would have been a better option, but he will probably be on more money at KR, as you say he would have been a better long term signing.

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Quote: Hatfield Town Wire "He would make a good programme seller. He wouldn't get injured doing that....'"


Paper cuts? Very nasty. There's three weeks out, at least.

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Smith previously said that Wheeler was "playing for a contract" when there was about 4-5 games left. I think he scored 2 tries in the match against Hull at HJ and then didn't play for the rest of the season. Is that really enough to secure another 12 months of employment?

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I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Gaz the wrong contract to sign & we have him for a 5 year deal ,just like Matt Sturm.

Mind you ,when he played for Saints ,he got glowing reports from the fans providing he could be kept fit.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "Also worth noting in the games he's actually played he's been hopeless.'"

This is the thing i don't get... if he had been brilliant in a few games and missed the rest, i could understand it.

But he was rubbish.

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If he can Wheeler can get a gig at Warrington then so can most of us on here.

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I hope he finally has a good year and shows all his talent........I said the same thing last year so I'm not holding on to much hope. But i hate to see anyone out of a job so I wish him the best and a 30 try season icon_smile.gif Very happy with sims signing and I'm a fan of Philbin so I'm made up with that too icon_smile.gif

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Interested how Wheeler would perform in an injury free season.....got to feel sorry for him, but not sure what he has done to earn a new contract...must be quite an incriminating photo he has of a senior member of the coaching staff (allegedly!).

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I was told by someone that knows Wheeler that he had a very poor attitude when it comes to his fitness. I hope he grows out of this becauae your time in the game is so limited that you have to make the most of it.

On Wheeler's re-signing, he offers reasonably solid injury cover in a number of positions and I suspect on a fairly low wage. I think we need to temper our excpectations of him. We can't have 25 superstars in the squad!

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I must admit I do get a bit fed up of the forum's going on and on and on about Wheeler. He obviously has skill and some pace let's hope we see more of it on match day and good luck to him. As the last poster pointed out he's a back up for centre/half back. Let's move on.

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