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He and we have had to handle huge changes in our squad over the past 2 years. There's a good few times when people have questioned TS but more often than not he gets it right. With a squad unrecognisable last year we nearly beat you Pies in the semifinal.

It's not been a great year, but if anyone can turn it around, then it's TS.

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He has 1 year left on his contract. Let him see it out with the new players that have come in. If he fails next year then let him leave.

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Difficult to watch that. Smith looks mentally shot.

its falling apart around him and he doesn't know why.

oh well never mind.. lets give him another year to 'turn this around'

whats the worst that can happen?

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Smith will get another season I'm pretty sure but we need to start sounding out a top class replacement right now because it seems we drag our heels with recruitment and still get it wrong. So expect a two year wait before we reappoint lowes.

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If we got rid who would replace him? We're not exactly flush with quality coaches. Unless we bring Cullen back.........icon_smile.gif

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Love to get hold of Des Hasler, or tempt Madge back over here.

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We spend enough on overseas players, we might as well dig deep for an overseas coach too. (And sack off Agar too naturally)

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TS is a top coach look what we've achieved under him.

Ok we're going through a rough patch at the moment but in Tony we must trust!

The players need to standup and take ownership for there own performances it's no TS on the pitch dropping the ball, slipping off tackles, not completing the sets (basic RL).

The players and the club need to make a public appology for last nights performance and then come out and explain how theye are going to improve. (We need a couple of High Profile Signings also)

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We've not achieved a grand final win despite having had the best team for three consecutive seasons. The buck stops with the coach every time...that's what he gets paid for.

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Smith built and picked the current team, of course the onus is on him. You wouldn't say he has no part in success and it's just the players would you? It applies in both scenarios

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In certain games TS has made critical errors that ultimately cost us a win...
But last night there wasn't anything anyone could have done. Let's not kid ourselves, that is our level and it has been so all season but for minor peaks when it didn't really matter either way to a weakened Leeds team. We are no better or poorer than that least night.

Clarkey said it on sky last month, we won't make the top 4 and it'll take 3 years to build us back up.
I hate him for saying it but cannot give him an arguement.

Does TS have 3 years of confidence from the board to turn things around? Currently he has only one year.

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Tony Smith is a good coach, as others have said he has given you more success than you have seen for a while. But it is also true that some times a change of coach is needed to reboot a clubs progression. I think it would be a mistake to read too much into your performances in the 8's. Last night your players looked like they just wanted the season to be over. Realistically all they have left to play for is pride, possible international selection and TS's job, on last nights showing that was not enough motivation for many of them. For mine much of the "blame" for last nights performance lies with the players rather than the coach.

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How about possibly an up & coming English coach ,Paul Rowley of Richard Marshall & stick Tony as Director of Rugby to preserve his sanity. Maybe his man management skills could be better used at director level.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload " Finally where were the set moves ?

Quote: Winslade's Offload "]

TBF, we have three well-honed set moves:

1. Short pass to a forward who drives it up. This usually works out ok in our half, but is less effective 3/4 tines in a row on the opposition line.
2. Pass to Clark or Ratchford who, from a standing start, wriggle their bums provocatively and try to run between defenders. Comes off sometimes, probably quite easy to manage though.
3. 2-3 passes along the line to players standing still. This often culminates in a knock on, but every so often one of the passes goes behind everyone, meaning our men dive back quickly to try to pick it up.

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Quote: TOMCAT " Realistically all they have left to play for is pride, possible international selection and TS's job, on last nights showing that was not enough motivation for many of them. For mine much of the "blame" for last nights performance lies with the players rather than the coach.'"


A primary role of a coach is to motivate his players - the opposition was Wigan, FFS, it shouldn't be that difficult to motivate a Warrington side to play them. If he can't motivate them for that, and indeed if they can't be ar$ed to play for 'his job', as you suggest, then a shake up is needed.

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