Totally agree. The 2nd half performance wasn't good enough. Our kicking game is atrocious, I lost count on how many times the ball hit the floor.

We are just an average team.

Not average in the fact we're just flush with average players and always play average rugby. We have some high quality players and at times we play outstanding rugby, but in the next breath we have some poor quality players and at times we play appalling rugby. We're one extreme to the other one week to the next, one five minute spell to the next. So overall it all just averages out as just mediocre as a whole product.

I can't see us making the top four never mind the GF. I think we'll finish 6th/7th. I suppose that's no disgrace and not a poor season just where an average side should finish. Mid-table.

Not rubbish, not crap but not great or anything special...just average, ordinary, mediocre as a whole whatever you want to call it.

we're pretty rubbish this year... it was clear for all to see just a couple of games in.

Lets hope we can make a good fight for the Challenge cup this season, as no one can really expect this side to do anything in regards the grand final.

Just a pity there is no award for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We looked good at times in attack but were short on ideas & let Saints back in.

On current form who on earth could disagree with him? Worth pointing out that he has heaped more than his fair share of praise on us over the last few years.

The bloke is an ar*e, whether his opinion is valid or not.

Surely we can only say "we have no chance of making the GF" when we finish outside the 4 or get knocked out in the playoffs. To say we have "no chance" now is inaccurate. I happen to believe our chances are low, but not zero.

Bookies' best prices are 6/1 to win the GF and 5/2 to get there (which are both a bit skinny in my view) but it's certainly better than "no chance"

I should imagine this prediction was levelled at saints quite a lot last season. I don't think we will get close but maybe just maybe the year we win it is when we've no bloody chance...unfortunately the difference is saints win GFs when poor and we can't win them when the best team by a country mile. If we can scrape our way to a lucky title, everything might change.

Stay clear of injuries. Build a bit of form in the last six games and you'll be there or thereabouts.

As a neutral,I would say you have had your chance.Probably better to assure yourselves of a top eight spot and re-build for next season..You don't really want to be touching the mid 8's and your getting pretty close to it should others win below you.

There's no chance we'll be in the middle 8s.

That's a brave prediction seeing as we are 2 league points above 9th.

I will say it as well...zero chance of us being in the middle eight.

Out of last years top eight, we have only managed to beat Leeds and Widnes (just!) this season. Frightening!