its a new tactic to tire the opposition out...

its tiring me out.

Let me make this statement for the record.. In my opinion

Russell and penny aren't good enough for this level. Bridge is working on borrowed time. Atkins has done very little for the last 2 years. We only have Ratchford who knows how to go forward, the rest couldn't find their way out of a paper bag. Let's smell the coffee. Saints are top of the league because they haven't played a decent team as yet and to be honest there are very few in Super league at present. We score all our trys based on the work of forwards. Even I could have score the try that Penny did without the circus act beforehand. We have sufficient go forward but it's the same old story - a set of backs who don't know what to do or are incapable of doing it inside the opposition's 20

For the love of god stop crying. This isn't 2011 anymore. Fact of the matter is, when our forwards get the upper hand, so do we as a team. Last night that didn't happen so neither did we. If anything the scoreline shows how close we can come to beating the top of the league when playing woefully. If Penny had gotten that ball an inch closer to the floor we'd be looking at a potential win. Not bad for a team that some would have you believe is in dire circumstances. We will click. It's a matter of when, until then we'll nickel and dime our way. We have a lot of players to come back. Players who make metres and score tries.

WireWireWire with sound talk of reason.
I can see us winning every game until at least the back end of April, by which we ought to have put right the half back continuity and daft things like passing to a back rower to kick on the last etc.
....and with that in mind I'm quite hopeful that we will continue winning therefore after that period.

As someone who lives outside the UK, I've never had the chance to see Declan Patton play. I've heard positive things about him on here for his age group but can anyone give a realistic evaluation of how ready he might be to play as half-back for the first team, and whether he has any kicking game?

Was GOB really that bad? I thought he played ok. Given the lack of territory that Warrington had, he can't do much from your 40m line.

I thought Penny was the bee's knees a few games back?

You had a few players out and England would have bolstered the pack somewhat. It's very early days and it's not like the margin was huge at the end.

The biggest surprise for me is Clark. Not seen alot from him this year. Could it be a touch of the Shenton's? Remember Danny Ore? Awesome at Cas, so so at a bigger club.

Micky Higham looked pretty decent too, apart from the suicide pass.

To be fair , I didn't say GOB was bad . just that he needs a foil .

It is a bit much to ask a young guy to take full responsibility for moving the team around. We are a young team, generally.

The negativity of this thread is very off-putting.....

We need experience at the side of Gaz, he's maturing and anyone with any rugby knowledge can see he's getting better.

Our season is panning out pretty much as I expected. We normally have a dominant pack (it won't be occasionally); our kicking game is not great; we will play devil-may-care rugby too much and people will moan when it doesn't come off and cheer when it does; we'll be in the top 4 pretty much all of the season and we'll see what happens in the two play off games.

Slight disappointments - Clark and Sims, but neither have been disastrous (a la Roy last year)
Better than expected - Penny, second row

Quarter of the first part of the season gone and we are third in the league.

Spot on.

There people on here with incredibly short memories.

Don't remember all this doom and gloom last week after the Leeds game.

We did not play as well as we could have but there is a lot more to come from this team in my opinion.

We went to Saints and were beaten by eight points.

Some people need to get a grip.
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Christ, I wouldn't have liked to have seen this thread if we were beaten by 30+ never took our chances in the 1st half, kicking game was poor and the pace at the play the ball didn't seem to be there like last week. We have some very winnable games coming up now so hopefully we can go on a good run and we will still be there or there abouts at the top at the end of the season. Saints with a full team are the team to beat though

Surely you have that wrong, G. After all, this is the Penny who "TheDoc" said earlier in the thread that he's not good enough, and the same Penny who's fault it is when we lose a game?

For one, I agree with you. Penny has been great this year.

The worst thing for me about losing is every time we do, you get the oppo fans come out what that rather boring, inane comment "oh, I thought it was your year this year". Getting stale and boring now.