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| Doesn't matter mate, it doesnt fit his agenda
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| I cannot deny that point As13
He probably had little choice and with current form of 2 wins with the hb's or Myler and GOB, TS doesn't have the reason to change and had to go along with it.
Now he has all the reason he needs to drop Myler.
Last season TS biggest mistake was to reinstate Myler imo, but I guess he had to give him the chance to prove his worth, and that's fare. But Myler let down again.
He has to be on last chance saloon this season. The appointment of Wheeler was to put pressure upon him to buck up.
TS cannot ignore this much longer out of sympathy, he's not the real deal and he never has been.
Bought in snap haste when the real money guy we ought to had splashed out on was Ratchford.
Hey we all think it, I'll just say it. No gripes on the kid but I cannot see his future here. Sometimes you need to put it into perspective, it's a job not a privilege, and he isn't doing it well for his pay grade.
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| I thought our kicking game was ok on Friday and good the week before at Hull.
What did Rubber Duck think about the quality of our kicking game at Hull?
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Doesn't matter mate, it doesnt fit his agenda'"
I listen as good as I see.
What is your take?
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| I think a major problem with Bridge at half back is the amount of injuries he picks up & more or less every season he has a long lay off at some point, I am a great fan of Bridge's though,& i think his best position is centre.
As for Ratch ,i think he too is a great player & for many he is our favoured full back, but at stand off his reluctance to pass the ball would be a draw back as it was with Willie Aspinall many years ago.
Wheeler may be a good option but is overall fitness is still in question.
What alarmed me on Friday was that St G had two meaningful attacks in the first half & scored both times ,cutting through our defence easily. On the other hand, at times , we look as if we could spend 80 minutes camped on an opponents try line & still not score but we are much more dangerous from broken play further out from the try line. A player we will miss when he retires will be Mickey Higham....he seems to have the greatest nouse close to the line.
I think may be O'Brien 's missed penalty to touch could have played a big part in the result because we could have had six tackles from half way providing nobody dropped the ball.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "I thought our kicking game was ok on Friday and good the week before at Hull.
What did Rubber Duck think about the quality of our kicking game at Hull?'"
I cannot comment Paul as I shamelessly didn't go.
I had work commitments.
There was precious next to nothing the SL show too.
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| Too right 9A
GOB simply doesn't put enough height into his kicks.
Not enough height to find touch, not enough height to give the fb something to think about with a bomb.
These are simply fundamental errors. GOB can fix them, he needs to start doing big weights on them legs. His running game and handling are very good and improving.
Myler however is not.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Too right 9A
GOB simply doesn't put enough height into his kicks.
Not enough height to find touch, not enough height to give the fb something to think about with a bomb.
These are simply fundamental errors. GOB can fix them, he needs to start doing big weights on them legs. His running game and handling are very good and improving.
Myler however is not.'"
Did GOB not put enough height in his 40/20 at Hull?
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| Quote: rubber duckie "Too right 9A
GOB simply doesn't put enough height into his kicks.
Not enough height to find touch, not enough height to give the fb something to think about with a bomb.
These are simply fundamental errors. GOB can fix them, he needs to start doing big weights on them legs. His running game and handling are very good and improving.
Myler however is not.'"
Did GOB not put enough height into his 40m winning drop goal at Hull?
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| Why are you asking me those questions?
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| GOB sold one of the worlds best fullback's an outrageous dummy on Friday, running 40m to score.
The 40/20 and the drop goal decider last week against Hull.
His vision straight from the kickoff in one of our friendlys to put Penny away from our own half.
His solo effort last year against Wigan.
I don't know what more he can do.
Fwiw I think our kicking this season has improved, we've turned the opposition around a good few times this year but still not every kick was perfect, just like most teams.
Some of St G's kicks on Friday were diabolical but we aren't mentioning those ones are we? Just like we aren't mentioning the kicks we did that turned their fb and wingers around.
Same old story I'm afraid. We lose a game and the doom brigade roll out suggesting we chop and change a strong side and bring in someone new to plug a nonexistent gap.
Briers was brilliant for us and I love the guy, but a brilliant 6 hasn't won us the GF has it? Defence and a strong front row wins silverware.
We wrap up our sloppy errors and unnecessary offload attempts and we're golden.
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| Don't get me on Briers vw.
I'm not knocking GOB. I want him to improve on areas. He puts in great kicks in play but his bombs are little more than an up and under.
He ought to be trying to put snow on every bomb.
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| O'Brien is a talent and is developing we will see the best of him as the team improves overall, Myler I believe plays as TS wants him to play but that alone may not be enough, he did nothing wrong on Friday but as others have said he needs to kick on, in general I was more concerned about our line speed at times but that is a team matter not just individuals.
O'Brien I believe will see out his potential.
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| I didn't see anything wrong with his bombs on Friday either!! They were just well diffused by a good side
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Did GOB not put enough height into his 40m winning drop goal at Hull?'"
As I said in my message, after the game. He would have scored the goal if he was on the halfway line, given the height above the cross bar, as the ball went over.
With regards to our halfbacks, O`Brien, is easily our best kicker. Ratchford & Bridge can both kick, but are hit & miss. Ratchford should be left at fullback, where his ability can be maximised, with the extra room he has got there.
There is possibly a case (In the future), for Bridge to be selected at half to complement O`Brien......However, we are currently undefeated in the league.
We have just lost a very close game to a team with WORLD class halfbacks. If Joel had scored the 2 trys that he missed, then the game would probably have been ours.
In past seasons he would have bagged both of those, & all the doom merchants on here would have been celebrating the win.
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