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| Quote: Twentyman "I said this on the Wigan thread mate. The second punch was the dangerous one. With the first punch his head can jolt back and the body can absorb the punch...you see this in boxing when you almost see the energy from the knock out punch move down the body like a little wave (view Hatton's knockout against Manny on youtube as an example). With the second punch the head is against the floor and his brain and skull absorb the full impact of the punch hence the concussion (now finally recognised as a potentially serious brain injury if not treated right). He could have potentially done some serious permanent damage.'"
This is true the second blow was the most dangerous one because his head was on the ground and must absorb all the energy of the blow. As well as possible brain damage a detached retina could result in blindness.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "One of the more annoying things about this incident, is the way the BBC Sports Dept will jump up and down in moral outrage, about our dirty sport.
Let's face it, the only time the Beeb are interested in a RL story, is when it's a negative one
e.g. failed drugs test
violence by supporters
off the field misdemeanors by players
teams going into liquidation.
Had last night's game been a 30-28 classic with an golden point finish, and 4 contenders for try of the season, it would've barely been 4th item on their sports bulletin. However, due to Flower's (and Wigan's all round thuggery), they need to have a laydown in a darkened room. I still remember their cod horror at Morley's tackle in the first minute of that Aussie Test, that they almost forgot we won the game.'"
Well, in fairness it was hardly a game that oozed skill and quality. How many knock ons? Poor attacking options taken from both sides, shocking discipline (I'm not just talking foul play)! The fact is was close for most of the match meant it would have kept the interest of the neutrals.
The Ben Flower punch was the best talking point out of what was otherwise a very dull affair on the field.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Sick of seeing this comment across RLFANS and Twitter. NO ONE (apart from maybe that idiot Gaz Hock) has defended him.'"
Plenty of Pie Fans on twitter are defending him.
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| A point I had completely forgotten to bring up, what a tedious game it was in the end, did the weather contribute to that, Saints having no creativity (understandable). Wigan having 1 less man playing it safer? Who knows, wasn't a patch on last week though.
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| Quote: Bobby Digital "Plenty of Pie Fans on twitter are defending him.'"
I've read some absolute garbage on twitter since last night from fans of every club, none of which should be taken seriously. Martin Offiah was getting plenty of abuse from Wire fans for some reason.
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| Offiah get abuse off Wire fans everyday.
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| Andrew Voss @AndrewVossy - "Letting fans in the UK know, Australians waking up now to see Ben Flower's punch in the sport headlines.No tries ..just the act of thuggery"
Not good....
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| Quote: Wire Yed "Offiah get abuse off Wire fans everyday.'"
Offiah brings it on himself sometimes with his "do you know who I am" attitude. He reminds me of Stan Collymore. He says something, and if people don't agree with him, he starts getting all defensive and lashing out about "haters hating", words that annoy me as much as the word "bants".
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| Quote: Peckerwood "Well, in fairness it was hardly a game that oozed skill and quality. How many knock ons? Poor attacking options taken from both sides, shocking discipline (I'm not just talking foul play)! The fact is was close for most of the match meant it would have kept the interest of the neutrals.
The Ben Flower punch was the best talking point out of what was otherwise a very dull affair on the field.'"
Sky's first half highlights were about 10 mins, half of that dedicated to "that incident".
It looked from the highlights like pure attrition, a la NRL, with a bit of thuggery and fumbling added. Thank God I only watched the highlights and not the full "spectacle"
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| Quote: WireFanatic III "Offiah brings it on himself sometimes with his "do you know who I am" attitude. He reminds me of Stan Collymore. He says something, and if people don't agree with him, he starts getting all defensive and lashing out about "haters hating", words that annoy me as much as the word "bants".'"
He was insufferable last night. He has a big persecution complex, saying that the 'heat' he was getting on Twitter was 'just like the old days'. Apparently he was the most hated winger of his generation. Give over...
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| Quote: WireFanatic III "Offiah brings it on himself sometimes with his "do you know who I am" attitude. He reminds me of Stan Collymore. He says something, and if people don't agree with him, he starts getting all defensive and lashing out about "haters hating", words that annoy me as much as the word "bants".'"
Oh, this.
Now, THIS IS NOT A RACIST COMMENT, but it's like the media HAVE to have an eloquent black guy, just to appease the PC brigade.
Football with Collymore and Crooks (the fact that it's verbal diahorrea seems to be lost on them and their bosses) and the UNBELIEVABLELY tedious Clarke Carlisle.
Don't get me started on Offiah, he's neither eloquent or TV friendly, just a "face" that people know.
Can we ban pundits, please. It's either stating the bleedin' obvious, like John Wells, or just wummery like Schofield, or at times Phil Clarke.
For TV games, I tend to walk out at half time/full time, or just put the telly on mute, and just watch he replays. I find my blood pressure s much more normal, and the cat less frightened in the corner.
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| Quote: Supervegan! "He was insufferable last night. He has a big persecution complex, saying that the 'heat' he was getting on Twitter was 'just like the old days'. Apparently he was the most hated winger of his generation. Give over...'"
I've given up following him on Twitter. The guy is nothing but an odious moron. Yes, he's a Rugby League legend, but he's probably the only legend that stuff's that fact down people's throats on a daily basis.
Actually scrap that, there is one other who does that............fatty Schofield. Who was actually very quiet last night. I assume it's after his comment that "you won't win a GF with Flanagan at scrum half" spectacularly backfired on him.
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| Quote: Peckerwood "Well, in fairness it was hardly a game that oozed skill and quality. How many knock ons? Poor attacking options taken from both sides, shocking discipline (I'm not just talking foul play)! The fact is was close for most of the match meant it would have kept the interest of the neutrals.
The Ben Flower punch was the best talking point out of what was otherwise a very dull affair on the field.'"
I agree.
You can't beat rugby league fans for a bit of paranoia.
The Flower punch was the turning point of the game and there was not a lot of great flair rugby league on show, so editors have to show something that has a main talking point.
I remember in the World Cup there was a fairly dull game between Uruguay and Italy, and all we heard about for about two weeks afterwards was that one player had taken a bite out of someone's shoulder. They weren't focusing on the 'positive aspects of the sport' then were they?
In cricket all we have heard this week is about how Kevin Pietersen has slagged off his team mates. The media has just stirred that up not caring about inflicting maximum damage on the image of English cricket. It's the English media that has been stirring it.
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| The media feed off negativity, positivity doesn't sell papers or net subscriptions.
Last year it was Westwood
Year before a player losing a testicle.
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| No such thing as bad publicity. Fact of the matter is, the game wouldn't have received a fraction of the exposure if has in the last 24 hours, had the incident not occurred.
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