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This has easily been the poorest season in terms of quality i can remember..... No one really seemed to want to win it (apart from saints) and they almost messed that up because they are so poor.

Both ourselves and Wigan have treated it with disdain. Both turning out hapless performances against lower league opposition... leeds never bother to take it seriously... last season Wigan even appeared to TRY to lose top spot on purpose.

Lets hope this new club series against the aussies does something to make people try and win it again.... I would love nothing more than seeing all clubs go flat out to top the table.

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Quote: the flying biscuit "You think Saints have been anywhere near the best team in the league?
League position on the last day of the season may state otherwise, but this is side that has been criticised on numerous occasions for lacking fight, spirit, application, and skill.

We've seen them more than once getting absolutely embarrassed, the chairman, the coach, the senior players, all publicly bemoaning their soft underbelly.

To compare this Saints side to the one that handed us defeat after defeat for years would be a crime

I would struggle to find a worse team to win the LLS ever.

38 points wouldn't have got 4th place a few years back.....

Its been a terribly weak league whoever finishes "real" champions will most likely be a quickly forgotten team....

Just for two Michael Monaghan passes in the last games and we could have been League leaders.........that would have been a disgrace.....

I cant pick a winner this year probably Wigan If I'm pushed but again the worst championship winning Wigan side in History surely....??'"

No, i don't think they have been the best team in the league.

It's almost been Saints by default with how it's finished with Wigan just being a point behind them in the end because if Wigan didn't have to travel to Aus for the WCC and rest players and not really take their opening game against Huddersfield seriously, it's highly likely Wigan would have finished top of the league.

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The best teams don't always neccessarily win leagues anyway. As examples, when Michael Thomas in 1989 and Sergio Aguero in 2012 scored injury time goals that won their teams the league title, did that prove beyond any doubt that those teams were the best? Had those two shots gone wide would Liverpool and Man United respectively have been the undisputed best teams instead? No, it's not as simple as that. Those two goals were incredible moments of sporting drama that have never been and will never be forgotten, but who is "the best" isn't decided by one moment, and league titles sometimes are.

In situations where winning the league actually counts for fairly little - ie Super League - then it becomes even less so. The LLS does not confirm wo is the best team. To say is does it just daft.

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "The LLS does not confirm wo is the best team. To say is does it just daft.'"

Isn't it a far better indicator than how you do in the three/four games at the end of the season?

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Quote: garyhulsefan "Isn't it a far better indicator than how you do in the three/four games at the end of the season?'"



Well said. It certainly does.

We now find ourselves going in to the 1st round with what, six or seven first choice players injured. The same may be the case for other top teams.

How can this play off system give a true reflection of who the champion team is.

Taking it to the extreme the top seven teams all pick up injuries to several key players in the last round of the season and Widnes have a fully fit squad and win the GF by winning 4 games at the end of the season, (having scraped in to the top eight and winning less than half of their matches). Is that a true measure of Rugby Leagues "Champion Team"?

Unlikely as it may seem it could happen under the current system.
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