I would describe our performance as frustrating rather than woeful. We weren't far off, wigans defence was very good but we definitely didn't ask enough questions of them and bombed some good position with a lack of structure. Defence was ok forwards fronted up very well too.

I'd describe it as garbage and I think some people are deluding themselves. SOME of the forwards fronted up well, some were abysmal, defence was good in places, some players are defending like strangers.

Finally the attack. We didn't bomb anything - that implies we made half chances and blew them by forcing passes or ignoring overlaps. We didn't - we engineered nothing even with a wealth of possession and territory in the final 20 against a tiring, average team.

and to only score 4 that is woeful,,and it came gift wrapped from a wigan pass not of our own doing

Spot on - The forwards actually made good yards, probably more than Wigan, yet after 3 good drives our half backs were nowhere to be seen to be able to create and bring our backs into the game, whereas Wigan did have the talent to at least bring their three quarters into the game on the back of some decent ball.

If Myler/Ratchford/O'Brien is our half back choice for the full season, then we are in for a very mediocre time.

And if our only threat from Myler is a bomb, then for Christ sake attempt to get some snow on it!

Chris bridge bombed 2 chances in the last 10 when despite the fact that we had been at best dysfunctional in attack we were still in with a chance. We had good territory after Russell came on, why Myler waited until then to put some decent kicks in I will never know. Like I said before very frustrating to me.

I'll take your word for it. I must have been examining some interesting pocket fluff or wondering when I last descaled the kettle during these half-chances.

Must have been.

Stealing a living certainly applies to Mr Asotasi.Not really an NRL watcher so can someone enlighten me on his reputation over in Aus as it looks as though he's on a holiday from what i've seen.

Anyone who has watched Asotasi closely will know that his last good season was about 4 years ago. It is an awful signing.

Noticed that Atkins retweeted a group photo of a team outing to a Manchester restaurant yesterday. Couldn't see Asotasi there, which just makes me think he's not really bought into what team spirit our club has...

Perhaps they ate him?

Asotasi will be there, there are quite a few of the team not on the photo, but who would of been there. It was team orders for them to go.

And anyone who's watched Wires for more than 5 years will know that this is far from the worse set of players we've had, and far from the most inept performances too, and will know to give the squad time to develop after the loss of several senior players.

We've been waiting for Myler to develop for about 5 years and he is still absolute gash......