Didn't Hoddle bring a spiritualist in to lift his players fortunes ? Even Mystic Meg couldn't get me 6 winning lottery numbers.

Decent read that Sally



Eileen Drury i believe her name was... faith healer.

He was the last manager to lose the England managers job for non football reasons i believe.. Didn't he come out and publicly say that disabled people were being punished for something they had done in a past life?

I think his words were taken out of context.
He said something along the lines of ..We're born with 2 arms 2 legs and half a brain for a reason.

The media then reflected that if you didn't have these then that was also for a reason.

That labour sports minister tony somebody put pressure on to get him removed as coach.

Even so it was a pretty dumb thing to say.

It has been touched on already here, but how does somebody coach what was instinctive to them to other players who don't have them instincts?
Can you coach instinct?

Briers could coach the players about scenarios, i.e. if this happens, then do this, but if something else happens then actually do this instead etc.
If it is not instinctive to the player he is coaching then the player will have to think about the scenario and by the time his thought process has worked out the play the scenario requires, the opportunity may be gone or he been tackled.

The reason Briers was so good and could unlock a defence, was that he didn't have to think about it. It was instinctive.

Most coahes dont coach "moves" because the chance of all the aspects being right i.e players in the corect position defense being where we want them, speed of the ptb etc etc are very rarely correct. So they coach individual aspects and let the players put the rest together on the pitch "play whats in front of you" is whats needed in a game?
And this only happens with confidence of the attaking players with each other and this takes time to happen.

Well again it comes down in the end to players and the quality of the execution.

When a team has a poor kicking game, its usually because of poor kicking, not that the attacking coach has told the kicker to put every kick straight to the opposition fullback.

Just watched the 2012 CCF again, how far we have fallen from then until now. Our spread plays were so slick and incisive, Hodgson having as much influence as Briers.

Watch 2009 again.
Never seen Warrington so switch on and attack minded in a single game since Boyd's memorable Premiership win v Halifax.

So what does TS do....play Myler who hasn't got the natural ability but has bags of confidence & thinks he's undroppable.....or play G O'B who's got natural ability but not much confidence due to TS dropping him or shipping out to different clubs. A run of games would do G O'Bs confidence & in due course game & attacking skills the world of good. Mylers supposed to be one of our main playmakers & is one of our highest paid players.

I find it hard to believe no attacking plays are coached. You surely videos are watched and discussions had over what play should have occurred. Also surely grubber kicks are practiced. Corner kicks. Inside balls etc.

You can coach when exactly to use a plAy. But you can practice the skills.

Senior players are supposed to be so proficient at skills that they are then a technique. However, it is always good to go over core skills even with the best players.

I think the point was Tony Smith likes players to play what they see and work an opposition out rather than running fixed, robotic set plays.

Like the one that saw Briscoe walk through the middle of our defense on friday to score under the posts.

That wasn't a set play, that was something the opposition had noticed (that our forwards were looking tired and losing concentration) thus bringing in Briscoe close to the ruck to exploit their lack of lateral movement.

Or are you suggesting that was being planned from kick-off?

A move is different than a set play. The vision to decide what to do when is not really something that can be coached into players.

I've never been to a Warrington coaching session, so my comments are not borne from experience but what on earth is it that Tony Smith and his coaching staff do then, if no-one is "coached"???? They are not playing Fantasy Rugby League Manager!

I cannot believe that instinct is relied upon to get us through games. It has to play a part and that is what is being missed from the likes of Lee Briers (go yourself, kick to the wing, grubber kick, chip and chase, pass) but there are 13 other players on the field at any one time with exactly the same choices to make.

I have been HUGELY disappointed at our lack of finishing so far this season (only two games, I know) but there doesn't appear to be ANY clue as to what to do when we get 20 metres or so from an opposition's try line. Benny Westwood's try against Leeds is the exception to this rule.

Our opponents are easily going to realise that our only attacking move is kicking it high and wide for Joel to pounce upon. This worked fortunately against Leeds as Ryan Hall wasn't on his game, but I have nightmares that Joel misses and the opposition winger picks up the ball and has an empty field ahead of him to the try line!

I am looking for Michael Monaghan, Richie Myler, Gareth O'Brien, Micky Higham and/or Stefan Ratchford (Matty Russell when fit) to be those players who are "controlling" our attack as we reach these positions, but no one so far has come up with the goods.

im suggesting its a move that has been rehed on the training ground. Its then something that can be called on at anytime in a game.. so yes, it was a set play.

Leeds didn't just think 'oh lets try this thing we have never done before ever'.