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| Play GOB at 6 and Russell at 1.
I've said it before...
Ratchford is good at many positions and master of none.
I find him best in the last 20 of each half when defences tire. He breaches the line and makes good yardage and is very elusive in running style.
In many games before this period I see him being lazy, idling behind play.
I would have him as a utility bench back and Grix (when fit) as utility bench forward accompanied with two props Wood (when fit) and Asotasi (who probably needs a softened defence at this stage to adjust to our game) on the bench every week.
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| Simple
1. Russell
2. Riley
3. Bridge
4. Ratchford (Drop Atkins)
5. J.Monaghan
6. GOB
7. Myler
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| Ratchford is in the position Bridge was a few years ago, we know he's a talent but not sure what his best position is yet. Bridge was a utility player for a bit then after he had that coming of age game at Odsal where he filled in for Briers at 6 and tore Bradford up he was seen as a stand-off for a while. We played him the best part of 2 seasons there alongside Briers and he showed a few good flashes of form but never really suggested he was going to be the answer at 6. Then I remember one off season the new line was that Bridge was going to be fullback and he played there in pre-season and the start of the season (and looked decent) but then got injured and was out for the year. It was only really when we signed Myler and Mathers and there was no place for him in the halves or fullback that the question was solved, he had to play centre and he excelled there.
I fear that Ratchford is going to also roam around for a while but I somehow don't think he will end up 6 long term. I think he will end up a fullback or centre. Maybe the answer this season will be as Yed says, give GOB a run alongside Myler, lets see what Russell is about, and put Ratchford at centre as I think he's better than Bridge and Atkins now.
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| Fair post. I wouldn't drop Bridge for Ratchford though. Ratchford only shows flashes of great skill.
Bridge is ball handling is faster and he's stronger.
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| Jordan Burke seems to have plenty of full back potential too. He was more effective in the Salford game than Ratchford who went off injured so we don't really know if Ratchford is still not fully recovered from his OT injury.
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| You have the same problem as us last year, no organiser in the team. Neither Myler, Ratchford or O'Brien can boss the team around the park.
Its Myler who should step up to the mark and grow some, i would give O'Brien the No 6 shirt for his kicking game, when he played for us it took him 3 or 4 games to settle.
For Ratchford maybe he could be used at centre replacing Atkins, Ratchford is better out wide, if you think Riley is as bad as Atkins then put Atkins on the wing.
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| Atkins can't or won't pass so let his pace strength and ability to catch a high ball feature on the wing and keep GOB in the team for a run and he will either sink or swim
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| To be honest the team ,in its various forms, has been bossed about on the pitch by Briers for the last 15 years (?) so in the dressing room we have a lack of people who could actually step forward as a natural leader.
I suppose the 2 most likely candidates are M. Monas & Higham but their available shelf life will now be limited so may be O'Brien needs to be used more to benefit from the experience of playing alongside these players.Lee Briers is also available to mentor all our available halfbacks into becoming on field master puppeteers.
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| I'd break the bank for Danny Brough now.
But I would have signed him 3 years ago and let Briers move on then too.
That'll upset a few on here.
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| After watching both Myler and Obrien aver the last few years, i dont see them both in the team together, i see them both as out and out 7's and neither playing stand off, So i would go with O'brien at 7 and Ratchford at 6. As O'brien offers more in the way of kicking and organisation.
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| Without seeing the team sheet. It would have been easy to forgive someone for thinking Myler wasn't even on the pitch.
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| Looking in the RL press today, what was clearly a huge part in our downfall was the number of missed tackles - 33 in total.
Of these, Myler missed 6 but actually made quite a few. Now, do we conclude:
a). Myler can't tackle
b). He was so shattered from all that tackling (or attempted tackling) he was too knackered to play
c). He was targeted
Whatever the answer, I personally don't expect my half backs to be doing that much defensive work during the match. Briers wasn't noted for his defence and seemed to keep out of the way during periods when we didn't have the ball but, as a result, he always had plenty of juice left for attack duties.
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| Quote: marshman777 "After watching both Myler and Obrien aver the last few years, i dont see them both in the team together, i see them both as out and out 7's and neither playing stand off, So i would go with O'brien at 7 and Ratchford at 6. As O'brien offers more in the way of kicking and organisation.'"
I like this idea, maybe Myler to 9 in the long run interchange with Dwyer? I reckon Myler would make a very good 9.
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| I dont see how Myler would make a forward?
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| Realistically the modern 9 is a bit like an extra 7 anyway. I think Myler would be good out of dummy half. Same sort of problems at half that Monaghan had but we all know how good a fit Monaghan was at 9.
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