The Dudson one was probably only just a penalty. He made contact over the shoulder, on the ball but as Monaghan started going down it just about went around his neck.

Hardly worth mentioning.

if flower one on the other hand? highly suspicious

I am almost certain he can't take the egp as he has had another suspension early this year. You have to have had a clean record for at least twelve months.

Because it was a "legal" tackle, do you not understand that?

Apparently every single tackle Warrington made in that final was illegal, and every Wigan tackle was legal. Isn't that what's being said....

Does any of this matter now?

Westwood was naughty and will get punished end of!

There were other tackles that are these days deemed high shots when they actually are just arms and such slipping over the ball. They are however dealt with on the day either by the "on report " kop out route or by this and a penalty.

The Hansen thing is viewable form both points and can be construed as an accident or intentional. The committee have viewed it accidental, end of!

Theres a constant stream of high shots every week and the resulting penalties are actually reducing this. The way to stop what Hansen alledgedlly did is to outlaw tackling in that manner. Only tackling held up players above waist height, anything below is auto Sin Bin just like the late challenge on the kicker.

No matter what we put in as a rule someone will always break it, but if the punishment is sevre enough the instance will reduce.

Surely the difference is INTENT. Dudson was actually going for the ball - but missed. It was a penalty and no more. Hansen's tackle wasn't illegal - the ref saw it clearly.

He didn't see the punch by Westwood. Quite what the mitigating circumstances are I've no idea.

Probably best to make a joke of it like Shaun Wane did, saying Green should have got up quicker. Wane showed a lot more class than Tony Smith. He never moans about foul play as he recognises that in RL you give it and you take it. Which is what Wigan did and what Warrington apparently can't do.

Hmm. Is this the same Shaun Wane who was complaining about wanting Tomkins to get more protection from referees and if he didn't, "whatever happens to Sam, I'll make sure that our defenders do the same"?

Yeah, real classy guy who never moans about foul play.

Its the shaun wane who 90% of the time he's on sky, can be seen mouthing F bombs.

I am guessing that in your mind, Hock's eye gouging, drug taking or thist throwing at the Magic Weekend (three examples off the top of my head) had no impact on the "fine upstanding club" that is Wigan Warriors?

Anyway he got one match. Argument over.

What i do find disturbing is the amount of serious injuries that Wire players have sustained in Wigan games over the last few years.

Matt King serious neck injury

David Solomona serious knee injury due to dubious tackle in CC semi a couple of years ago .

Stef Ratchford ankle injury due to shoulder charge to hip 2013 SL Final.

I would hate to think there is a policy at Wigan to eliminate opponents by fair means or foul .