I fear you could be very childish keyboard warrior who doesn't have the intellect to put together a reasonable and intelligent response to what was a reasonable topic for debate imo, but instead respond with the type of rhetoric usually reserved for immature plonkers.

Exactly what browny said, but slightly more subtle.

He didn't give a reason as to why I am an idiot though?

Also, that is quite offensive, and shows the invisibility sitting behind a keyboard gives them.

A petition to improve refereeing standards? Really? How do you suggest the improvements would be made? More training, video and knowledge sessions? I have one idea, and I believe it is a decent opinion personally. If you don't like it, do it better yourself. If you go to the RFL website, you'll find an application pack to complete and officials course, on which, you will receive training and advice so you can go out on a Sunday morning come rain and shine to earn your stripes as an official, and work your way up the ladder. I'm sure the RFL would appreciate having more officials at thee disposal.


To me, officials are skilled and professional athletes, es they make mistakes, but only as many as a Morley, Tomkins or Roby. As long as the game is played and officiated by humans, their will be errors. Sport's been like this for hundreds of years, and survived, in my opinion, give the authority back to the professional officials and do away with the video/tmo/DRS etc. and let them use their ability to make decisions.

Can we have a petition to improve the standard of Super League? It is dire this season compared to what we had a few years back. The game is slow and dull and the excitement has gone out of many fixtures. There is a lack of real quality at the top teams, which isn't to say there are no good players, just it is not what it was. The Aussies or Kiwis are going to rip England to shreds in the World Cup.

So my petition is for the RFL to do something about that, and not mickey mouse gestures like splitting the league up or whatever. The sport is facing tough competition, tennis, cycling, cricket, athletics etc the UK or England are producing world class athletes who are at the top of their sports, in rugby league we aren't, there's Sam Tomkins who will go to RU soon and that's it.

must admit the piece on the BBC website reporting that Myler could be out for a while gave a list of options in the halves should he miss the world cup...
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To be fair Ryan Hall will give the Aussies a game more than Tomkins will, he has been a pretty outstanding winger for club and country its a pity we dont 'big up' our genuine world class performers instead of a failed halfback that plays really well for his club against poor opposition.

Tomkins will leave superleague and it'll be what was the fuss......

Scott. I've been called far worse than that to my face many times (and sometimes I've justified it). If you think being called an idiot is offensive then maybe you should re-consider whether or not you really want to make statements that defy the laws of physics. You seem to have had a similar response on other Boards, especially on the Wigan one, so I think you should consider waving the white flag. If you really want to start a petition, address it to Neil Hudgell, and ask why HKR constantly try the referees patience with their lying on and messing around tactics at the ptb.

I sometimes wonder more often than not if there is a lack of knowledge of the rules from the spectator's side, therefore they get frustrated when decisions don't go the way they expected.

rlHere's a little quizrl to see if your knowledge of even the most basic rules is up to scratch. And be honest...!

8/10

i got question 2 & 3 wrong

I got 7/10. I wonder if anyone has been penalised for Q8 in the past 10 years?

I thought differential penalties were for ANY scrum related penalties?

Am i right in that or not?

Forward passes should only be judged forward if the ball moves forward relative to the player who passes the ball.

It's all to do with relativity; Galilean relativity states that the laws of motion are the same in all inertial frames. The problem is that after the player has passed the ball, he will often undergo an acceleration which will mean the frame of reference is no longer inertial. This makes it difficult to judge whether the ball has travelled forward or not. The only theory of relativity that can describe what happens in accelerating frames is Einstein's theory of general relativity, and I doubt the VR could use that to help him decide if a pass was forward or not, no matter how long you gave him.

Players usually are not travelling fast enough for the effects special relativity to come into play, so discarding Einstein's theories, we can go back to my original point and judge forward passes by simply applying Galilean invariance (assuming that all frames are inertial of course). There is one condition though, once you have selected your frame of reference you cannot change it when viewing the flight of the ball. This is the mistake most people make when judging forward passes. Their initial frame is the passer of the ball, they then change their frame to the pitch when viewing the flight of the ball. I would hazard a guess (although I have no empirical data to back this up), that viewed in this way around 50% of passes made to wingers travel forward. One of the problems is that your initial frame is often removed just after the pass has been made as the player is tackled. This makes judging whether the ball has gone forward very difficult, and no amount of camera angles will help you with this.

The only real solution is to look at the position of the passing player’s body and hands, and use this to judge whether the ball has been passed forward or not. I believe this is what referees currently do.

That's how I explained it last weekend.

Nice post, put going back to 'the intial frame of reference'.

Could the second the players release the ball be used in a similar way asoffside at a kick are used. That initial frame is frozen in time on the camera, you then see if the catching player is behind the passing player or are the margins too small to identify?