what got my back up on that call the way they was talking about it being a obstruction for a good few minutes after the try was awarded complete pack of tools the lot of them even cullen at times , they are so negative all they want to debate is high tackles foul play etc its allways the same , a high tackle will be looked at over and over again

But they didn't cross! Last week, the players involved did cross. Atkins just ran at the side of Waterhouse.

They just bore me... I want commentators who know how modern rugby leaue is played i.e pointing out things that I would have missed.... not just come out with the same cliches every game, and don't know half the rules.

I'd back Bentham to know more about the interpretation of the laws of the game than Pinky and Perky and the vast majority of fans. I would never expect an on field official to have to explain his decision to the viewing public, he sees an incident once in real time from one angle - he is bound to make mistakes (the best officials keep those mistakes to a minimum). However, on occasions such as last night I think it would be nice if Sky and the RFL allowed the video ref to explain why he came up with a particular decision, I would not however, allow those two bufoons to cross examine him.

Best/Worst bit of commentry for me was when they harked back to McDermotts comment on Friday about referees letting play go on. The incident in last nights game was when Thaler blew up because Saints players where 2 or 3 metres offside - he can't just allow play to continue because Sky Pundits and Coaches want to know how a set concludes.

I'd rather listen to my alarm clock going off at 5:30 after 8 pints of Guinness, than listen to Laurel and Hardy (Hunt and Dearden). That Thursday program is awful, but surprise, surprise, Radio Manchester are still prefering Wigan. It's like going back 20 years to the total impartiallity of "Me, Rodney May", who wouldn't dream of favouring Wigan.

the presenters on radio manc,sorry,piechester,are as biased as the dills on sky. How they get away with blatent favourtism is pathetic.I would not pay em in rivets{and i get them for nowt}!!!!!!!!!!

Was that when Clarke came up with the comment along the lines of "he's lost it" or something. Basically saying that the ref made the call because things were getting carried away, rather than make the call because there was a call to be made.

I think he said something like "oh he's panicked there". No Phil, McCarthy-Scarsbrook and Perry actually aren't the speed of Usain Bolt so they weren't back the 10.

Lovely how the Sky numpties kept bleating on and on and on and on (for 2 minutes afterwards) about Atkins 'crossing' that didn't actually stop Lomax getting to Waterhouse ..... but not a single peep or dickie about the incident in the first half when Myler broke away, and Atkins who was following up, was shoved from the field of play by the retreating Saints players to prevent him running in a quick play of the ball ........ or was that within the spirit of the game?

And I find it quite hilarious that fans of other teams seem to believe that Eddie Hemmings is a Warrington fan, when he obviously has St Helens bias. After what he was saying after the Leeds win about it "having to be a Saints v Leeds final", it just confirms it!

Oh Dearden and Hunt. Dreadful x2
They'll do ANYTHING, bar commentate on the game in front of him. Still, it's better than listening to that Lovett clown on Wire FM

The most entertaining radio commentary I've heard in quite some time was on Radio Humberside ... the Hull KR / St Helens time keeping controversy was quite something to listen to, one guy in particular was absolutely spitting chips about it and came within a gnat's whisker of accusing the time keepers of deliberately running the game on too long to allow saints the opportunity to nick the draw at the end. Priceless.

I gave up listening to Humberside because of that. Compared to them Jack and Trevor are a breath of fresh air.