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I don't live in Warrington, I live far away but go to every game, one of the things that surprises me is that there are many casual fans who could go but don't because it's a tad inconvenient. I live in a town with no sporting team to support and consequently the town has no real identity, no feeling of pride in the town. Warrington is lucky it has such a team and the local population should realise how lucky they are, because without doubt if more people choose not to go to the match because it interferes with their busy lives, one day, there won't be a match to go to.
If you're a fan, you have a duty to go, inconvenient or not !

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A season tickets rise of 6% shouldn't mean a corresponding rise in attendance. I would hazard a guess that most of the new season ticket people were just fans who went to almost every game last year anyway?

Attendance can also be dictated by which games are chosen by SKY as well so it's potluck. All seems very promising to me if you're saying that even for the games that are not supported well by the away fans, we did not drop under 10,000!

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



Quote: Saville Row "In a town of Over 200,000 an average of 11,000 isn't very good, but not surprising given the limited promotion in the non traditional areas that would come under a Warrington catchment area of north Cheshire. In fact promotion in general is pretty poor and something that should be looked at. Now where's my pen ?'"


5% of population isnt THAT bad. Take Leeds. Using a similar proportion they would need to attract over 35k. The smaller overall increase in average compared to the increase in season tickets, to me, means that more people like what they see and have chosen to come every week.

Promoting the Wigan/Saints games (as previously stated) would be a waste of money. You would not generate a larger increase in revenue than it would cost. There have been falls in crowd this season have been in the away stand. The Wigan attendence was probably hit by people who had a) spent their money visiting langtree on the Monday, b) were away on holiday and c) saving their pennies for Wembley.

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I must admit that on matters of our attendances, I'm in the glass half empty camp. Yes there appears to be a continued rise, all be it a slight one skewed by the "gift" of Widnes, but, I think we are light.

Blame the government's econimic policy, the bankers, the oil cartell, Sky TV, competition format, a drop in away fans, whatever. There has never been a better time to be a Wire and the townsfolk should back the team another 1500 on the average and sell outs v Wigan and Saints would show Moran and the players that we are behind them...sorry for my Delia Smith moment

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I think the visiting fans are responsible for most of the drop in our gates , i'm sure the only time the away end was full of visiting fans this year was for the visit of Saints.

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Quote: Saville Row "I don't live in Warrington, I live far away but go to every game'"


How far away do you live, and do you have a car? I rely on public transport so getting to the home games is costly and eats up a lot of time, even though I could probably manage it now. I usually go to the games in West Yorkshire, though I have to admit this season has been pretty meh and I've only been to the Leeds game (missing that would be criminal since I can [isee[/i the stadium from my top floor). I think last season really spoiled us and so this season has been disappointing in comparison, even though I used to go to plenty of games a few years ago.

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Quote: Uncle Rico "I must admit that on matters of our attendances, I'm in the glass half empty camp. Yes there appears to be a continued rise, all be it a slight one skewed by the "gift" of Widnes, but, I think we are light.

Blame the government's econimic policy, the bankers, the oil cartell, Sky TV, competition format, a drop in away fans, whatever. There has never been a better time to be a Wire and the townsfolk should back the team another 1500 on the average and sell outs v Wigan and Saints would show Moran and the players that we are behind them...sorry for my Delia Smith moment'"



it wasn't that long ago we had an average gate of 4500! Any year on year increase is fine...especially in the current economic climate.

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Quote: Oxford Exile "it wasn't that long ago we had an average gate of 4500! Any year on year increase is fine...especially in the current economic climate.'"



Ah, those were the days ! No queues at half time, plenty of space for the species. Where did it go wrong ?

On a more serious note, Hull are aiming for 10,000 ST's next year and managed to sell well over 600 on their first day of sales. And no, they are not discounting prices. I suppose they have invested in new players and there has always been a big potential pool of supporters over on Humberside. Who knows, perhaps they will make it.

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Quote: Saville Row "I don't live in Warrington, I live far away but go to every game, one of the things that surprises me is that there are many casual fans who could go but don't because it's a tad inconvenient. I live in a town with no sporting team to support and consequently the town has no real identity, no feeling of pride in the town. Warrington is lucky it has such a team and the local population should realise how lucky they are, because without doubt if more people choose not to go to the match because it interferes with their busy lives, one day, there won't be a match to go to.
If you're a fan, you have a duty to go, inconvenient or not !'"


Someone get this man a Blue Peter badge. He's clearly our bestest ever fan of all time innit.

As for increase in season ticket sales not being exactly reflected in overall increase, well of course it isn't. Do you think those extra season ticket holders had never been to a match before, or do you think that just maybe they went to a lot of games anyway and now they have a season ticket they are reducing the number of pay on the day fans? Hardly rocket science working that out is it?

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Any increase is a positive. End of story.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "Ah, those were the days ! No queues at half time, plenty of space for the species. Where did it go wrong ? '"


changing ends at half time, walking on the pitch! My god can you imagine the outcry if we tried to do that now! Health and Safety would have a baby!..stay off the yellow lines people!

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Someone get this man a Blue Peter badge. He's clearly our bestest ever fan of all time innit.

As for increase in season ticket sales not being exactly reflected in overall increase, well of course it isn't. Do you think those extra season ticket holders had never been to a match before, or do you think that just maybe they went to a lot of games anyway and now they have a season ticket they are reducing the number of pay on the day fans? Hardly rocket science working that out is it?'"



Is it that simple ?

Presumably there is some factor (winning, attractive rugby) that causes an increase to the ST numbers. That same factor would perhaps also apply to non-season ticket holders.

So a guy that attends 4-5 matches may like what he sees and go to 7-8 matches the next year (rather than buy a ST) . Or someone reads about the success of the club and decides to try a couple of games, or is persuaded by his son. Or somebody may start watching Sky RL and see Warrington doing well, and decide to go to a live match.

So I suspect the reasons are in fact quite complex when you start to look into it.

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I have the attendances as the list below with an average of 11,452, unless I've gone wrong somewhere;

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Compared to 2002 our average was 6189, including some terrible lows of 4190, 4416 and 4667.

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Quote: lister "I have the attendances as the list below with an average of 11,452, unless I've gone wrong somewhere;

rlrl

Compared to 2002 our average was 6189, including some terrible lows of 4190, 4416 and 4667.'"


I took the bulk of my data from here

www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seaso ... mmary.html
Quote: lister "I have the attendances as the list below with an average of 11,452, unless I've gone wrong somewhere;

rlrl

Compared to 2002 our average was 6189, including some terrible lows of 4190, 4416 and 4667.'"


I took the bulk of my data from here

www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seaso ... mmary.html


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Quote: sally cinnamon "I would have thought gates would have dropped this year, fans are being turned off rugby league because of the farcical system where the team that finishes top is not crowned champions, the whole Super League season is meaningless and none of the games matter till the playoffs, I don't know why more people are going?'"



Only because people like you view it as such finishing top of league is still the hardest of all trophies shield to win, Its only devalued by SKY and those brainwashed into thinking it doesnt matter. lets face it the GF is just the same as say the regal trophy.

Oh and you have to play them games to challenge for a play off spot to be in contention, Do the qualifying rounds to the cc not mean anything because its only the final that counts ??

Get a grip people

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