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Wasn’t good, but I can excuse the odd wrong decision as I do think there are some things that are impossible to decide on. With players tackling the ball in contact, it’s often impossible to decide if the ball coming loose is due to undue pressure or a loose carry. There was one occasion, I think it was Atkins who got pulled for a rip, when viewed in slow motion it blatantly wasn’t. I’m not going to criticise the ref for something I would only pass judgement on after watching the replay, but;

This is the second game this season a player has committed an infringement that the ref has seen. The rules state that the offence warrants a card, and all the ref has done is put the incident on report. It’s such a cop out and needs to go, now! It’s an absolute f’in joke. Mistakes I can excuse, but not adhering to the rules of the game makes my blood boil.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "that was a stinker......in that first half he gave wigan everything... i dont know how we managed to go in at half time 12-12.

to be fair wigan lost the game by kicking a goal when they had us under the kosh... we went right down their end and scored... they got what they deserved for being cowards and taking the 2.'"


The penalty was actually against Atkins I think who came in 2nd man, but seeing as Dikky didn't have a clue what he was doing he called the wrong man over (the tj gave the pen as well btw)

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Aside to all the very strange decisions Silverpud made this evening, he also turned a blind eye to the Wigan players constantly talking to him. I don't remember many tackles where at least one Wigan player immediately threw his arms in the air asking for a penalty.

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Quote: Paul2812 "Aside to all the very strange decisions Silverpud made this evening, he also turned a blind eye to the Wigan players constantly talking to him. I don't remember many tackles where at least one Wigan player immediately threw his arms in the air asking for a penalty.'"



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Quote: Roddy B "There was a point in the second half where Morley had tackled Finch, the ball came loose and dropped to the ground. I was a little distracted by conversation and couldn't hear the commentary, but I seen the ref give the ball back to Finch and I don't recall a penalty being given, nor do I recall the tackle count changing. How can a player drop the ball/have it stripped and then be told to play on?'"


He had called held and so told him to play the ball. Happened with Westwood at the start of the half too when he offloaded after the call.

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There was some discussion on the VT the other day about having two referees like in Aus, some people said it's unnecessary and wouldn't really change much, but surely it would change the percentage of correct calls on the illegal strip? I don't think I've watched a game this season where the ref has got more of them right than wrong. Pretty much every tackle now involves somebody trying to dislodge the ball, yet it seems to be a toss of the coin on whether he'll give it as a strip or a knock on. We should either go to the video ref to make the call or bring in another so they can get closer to the play and make the correct call.

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he had a shocker tonight IMO...how a Wigan player wasn't sent off I'll never know!..very poor.

Still....turned out nice again!

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When the ref is equally as bad for both teams you maybe have to look beyond him for your failings when you lose.

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Alibert would have had a better game than Silverwood tonight if her wasn't dropped.

Wonder if Silverwood will be dropped for his poor performance tonight. I doubt it as he has a big game to referee next week; Warrington v St Helens.

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Quote: Conroy "He had called held and so told him to play the ball. Happened with Westwood at the start of the half too when he offloaded after the call.'"


But if Morley stripped the ball, then it's a penalty, if Finch dropped it, it's a turnover to us. Just because he shouted held doesn't mean that a loose ball should be put back to the play the ball, otherwise every knock on/interference at the play the ball will be called back. I understood the Westwood one because he didn't think he was held and he didn't hear the ref, the ref called it back and used a little common sense; however, when the ball is loose, i.e. a knock on or potential illegal strip, I've never seen it called back to the ptb, usually the ref will decide on one of the two above happened.

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Quote: Roddy B "But if Morley stripped the ball, then it's a penalty, if Finch dropped it, it's a turnover to us. Just because he shouted held doesn't mean that a loose ball should be put back to the play the ball, otherwise every knock on/interference at the play the ball will be called back. I understood the Westwood one because he didn't think he was held and he didn't hear the ref, the ref called it back and used a little common sense; however, when the ball is loose, i.e. a knock on or potential illegal strip, I've never seen it called back to the ptb, usually the ref will decide on one of the two above happened.'"


It's the new ruling though. You know what they're like with them at the start of the season.

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Quote: Conroy "It's the new ruling though. You know what they're like with them at the start of the season.'"


Fairymuff. I haven't looked too much into the new rulings. Does that mean, if the ref calls held and a player then interferes with the play the ball, he'll just call it back to play it?

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I remember a couple of years ago when i was on holiday watching, i think, Wakey & Hudds on tv...Big Eorl was held for what seemed a lifetime by several defenders & eventually got a pass out only to get a penalty because the ref had called held a split second before, although Crabtree may not have heard him.It would be good for players & spectators if the RFL stopped messing about with the rules. There was certainly no second chance to play the ball on that occasion.

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Quote: Roddy B "Fairymuff. I haven't looked too much into the new rulings. Does that mean, if the ref calls held and a player then interferes with the play the ball, he'll just call it back to play it?'"


Probably. Not too sure what the guidelines are but it seems to be their new toy telling them to just play the ball. I agree that the Finch incident should have been one or the other.

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Quote: just_browny "He was worse than poor, he was a disgrace.

He almost choked on his whistle in his haste to give the Mickey Mac try, in full knowledge that it came from a voluntary tackle from Farrell.'"

Ball carrying arm was on the floor whilst in contact with a defending player, tackle complete.

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See Lee Briers.
Quote: just_browny "-Hansen kicking the ball away in the first couple of minutes ('Wire knock on')'"

Don't recall that but there were plenty of similar calls he got wrong in your favour, like the tackle in the air when Charnley was clearly challenging for the ball.
Quote: just_browny "-A high tackle against Myler when he barely reached chest-height.
-A high tackle against Morley when he barely reached chest-height.'"

It was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, imo.
Quote: just_browny "-The Lauaki debacles.'"

I don't know what you're talking about he did nothing wrong all game... Seriously though he got penalised for them so Silverwood dealt with it.

How can you lot moan and whinge so much after a win? d040.gif

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