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Quote: manco "aren't you contradicting your "want to play for England" post there mate?'"


No.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "I would question his mentality if he refuses to play for his country just because of the coach.'"


If anybody's mentality needs to come into question, it is Steve McNamara's.

It is highly unlikely that Atkins would want to play for England just because McNamara is the coach, no matter how utterly clueless and useless he is.

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Quote: Tony Soprano "No.'"

But you acknowledge that Chase didn't really want to play for England yet use it a as a reason for Atkins omission!

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Quote: manco "But you acknowledge that Chase didn't really want to play for England yet use it a as a reason for Atkins omission!'"


Your argument would hold up if Tony Soprano was the one selecting Chase for England (and the one not selecting Atkins). Otherwise it doesn't really make sense.

If MacNamara thinks Chase wants to play for England and thinks Atkins doesn't, then it doesn't matter what the Rt. Hon. Mr Soprano thinks. He is merely speculating as to the possible reasons behind Atkins' non-inclusion.

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Quote: manco "But you acknowledge that Chase didn't really want to play for England yet use it a as a reason for Atkins omission!'"


I am neither McNamara or Chase and the two circumstances are very different.

Not that I agree with Chase being picked for England.

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Quote: Tony Soprano " the two circumstances are very different'"

Why? Chase didn't want to play for England because it didn't suit and Atkins likewise.

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Atkins having a bit of a mare so far!

Eddie embarrassing himself referring to us as 'possible champions elect' and I wish Stevo wouldn't keep calling Burrow 'beep beep'. Kn0b!

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Quote: manco "Your mission tonight (should you choose to accept it) is to make Steve McBanana look a bigger t*t '"


MISSIONFAILED

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Had a shocker tonight, perhaps trying to hard to prove a point.

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poor from Ryan tonight....oh well..move on to next week.

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Quote: ArcticGorilla "MISSIONFAILED'"


he did have a shocker icon_lol.gif Seems McBanana isn't only a England coach but he is also a bad motivator of players (even out of the international scene)

Also Atkins is a better than Goulding or Carmont icon_wink.gif

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He'll learn from that tonight. He's still a long way from the finished article, but consider how far he's come in the short time he's been here, he'll be the best centre in the league in a few years time.

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Has played better than he did tonight.

Everyone has an off game

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Atkins IS a fine player...I don't really care what anyone else thinks....especially the muppet running England.

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He got shown up tonight by Watkins. He's not in the same class as Watkins who in my opinion will be world class. Can't see it being too long before union or NRL come sniffing for him.

Atkins is still a very good player, he looked like he was playing under a bit of pressure tonight.

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