Don't forget though that Leeds have friendlies plus 2 SL rounds of practice in and they will fix up where they went wrong against Wigan. Manly only flew over at the weekend and will have to adjust to the weather whilst getting over jetlag and have done no competitive match practice.

That said, Leeds need to up their game massively from the performance at Wigan.

Manly could beat Leeds if they all play on one leg

Do you often find there is large awkward silences after you speak in public?

they didnt win it by default,they won it fair and square,,so on that view saints must have got there by default cos we finished higher than them,,thats the play off format for you whether you agree with it or not...this season id settle for finishing 5th and winning the grand final and i think the majority would as well

Padders is a littl...e out there (being very polite there)


But that is no where near the silliest thing he's said. In fact,let's play around with some facts.

Leeds finished 5th in the league in an inferior league.
Peaked towards the END of last season and weren't 'wigan 2010' quality
Leeds just got dismantled and raped by a very so-so wigan team.

Manly finished 2nd in the nrl after a consistent ish season.
Looked strong in the nrl gf.
Have won this game before

The only thing you could say is maybe the obviously undercooked leeds team will catch manly off guard, as they haven't had a real game yet.

Although leeds may show the sort of from they had 3 or 4 years ago, the chances are manly will lose the game rather than leeds winning I. I.e. Manly make waaay too many mistakes and leeds luck out,

I hope it is a good game and that leeds put on a good show but I predict it won"t even be as competetive as the 2nd half of last year.

Sorry.

Yeah, it's usually at this point that everyone turns their backs on him and carries on the conversation without him.

Winning it by default would be the opposition teams being eliminated due to cheating. (fielding a banned player etc) Not by winning the best game of the season and beating Saints in the final for the 3rd time (4th in all) as underdogs.

On many occasion the team finishing top of SL has lost the GF and you are not the only League Leaders to fail to make the GF! Saints did in 2005! You come across very bitter, there is no difference really in a team finishing 2nd winning the GF or a team finishing 5th winning the GF. I admit it is harder to win the League than the GF but 99% of fans and 100% of players would rather win the GF than the league.

Warrington are a class side there is no doubt about that but the fact is in 2011 you played 2 KO games against quality opposition and lost them both!

Leeds could win the GF from 8th because they have so many experienced big game players capable of turning it on for a run of 4/5 games when it really matters, I dont think Warrington have that at the moment not to mention you have an older squad than the 'dinosaurs' at Leeds. Wire only have Mickey Higham in there squad who has won a SL GF without cheating thats the difference between the sides.

Warrington are a better side than Leeds but have less chance of winning a GF than Leeds imo although have million times more chance in winning the Challenge Cup. You'd think a team capable of dominating SL for since 2004 we would have won a CC!

At least there's quite a few decent Warrington Supporters who have this idiot down.

Which bit was wrong my wrong side of the Pennines friend ! Or did I hit a raw nerve ;0P

Ignorance truly is bliss.

I agree with all of this.

I don't really mind who wins (Leeds would be nice as we don't get many british winners) but i want a good game.

Also, I am suspicious of PAdders. I think he may be the most overt troll on this board.

I agree with you Padders. The World Club Challenge should be England's best v Australia's best. Warrington and Wigan were head and shoulders above the rest last season. Nobody could get near them. St Helens in third were way in front of the rest as well.

A competition where 27 games don't really matter if you have a bad game at the end is a joke.

Im sure even your own fans are highly embarrassed by that post.

If Manly win - proof that the Australians are light years ahead of us still

If Leeds win - proof that the whole concept of World Club Challenge is a joke